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I got creative today and put some pine needles into a plastic tub and got some pine cones plus a few parts of branches and set it up the best I could and took some shots of some of my freshly shed hatchlings. Enjoy!

And two shots of my male DonV Northern Pine. The female was in shed at the time these shots were taken at feeding time. I'll have to see if I can't get some natural shots of her in a set up somehow. They look very much alike. Interesting how much black filled in as they aged. They looked a lot like the above babies when I recieved them.

I had a question about the pine needles/cones they are laying on (I read somewhere pine shavings as substrate was bad because of the resin fumes). However being PINE snakes and the fact that a snake, named after something that is supposed to be bad for them, exists made me question my uhh..question. Anyways I started ranting about my new bull snake so I made my own post. -Tbo

Hi there, welcome to the wonderful world of Pits! Anyhow, to answer your question, you must understand pine trees are in the environment of many species of snakes. It's when they are kept one pine shavings that can be bad for snakes. Some more than others. This constant continual contact is bad. Being called Pine snakes doesn't mean they only live in pine trees. But I assure you no harm is going to come to them by meeting a pine cone or two out in the wild or on a photo shoot session. It's the extended constant exposure to pine shavings that is found to cause respiratory problems in snakes. Some are more touchy than others to this.

So hope that helps!

Thanks for your reply, Yea I did a little more research and found that It is only really bad when a snake is in extended direct contact and in low ventilated areas of high concentration (ie: glass sided aquarium with screen top type). I found this great article of good supports about the effects of pine/ceder/ect. on animals that was interesting and different from everyone's "I heard from someone somewhere". Thanks again -Tbo

www.anapsid.org/cedar.html

Wow, he certainly got dark in the saddles. I like the hatchlings as well. Very nice.