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I just picked up 2.4 adult patternless and striped Nuevo leon King Snakes. I've found several of these in the wild but none looked like these lol! It's my new favorite breeding project for next year.

PL
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Congrats Paul, that is a killer pick up!
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Jimmy Tintle

Nice looking Kings, but I don't know if I'd call them thayeri.....Unless you have solid lineage.......generic mexicana?

There was a few of these floating around back in the late 90s and early 2000s with no lineage information and were thought to have been crossed with aberrant Amealco Ruthveni........

I'm not saying that yours are those animals or from those animals but they look very similar to them........

But, again...Nice Kings and fun project for sure.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

do I detect a hint of jealousy?

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www.Bluerosy.com

Not at all...
I had a chance to purchase these years ago, but there was not lineage history......
They are plain cool ass snakes........that don't make them uncompromised with any other ssp.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

JL,

I don't know if you saw my response below. There is lineage. Also this line has never been available to anyone. I can guarantee what you had available / offered to you years ago is unrelated and has nothing to do with these.

PL

>>JL,
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>> I don't know if you saw my response below. There is lineage. Also this line has never been available to anyone. I can guarantee what you had available / offered to you years ago is unrelated and has nothing to do with these.
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>>PL

I read it Paul......read my responses......

Thanks......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

do I detect a hint of jealousy?

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www.Bluerosy.com

>>do I detect a hint of jealousy?

Do I detect Alzheimer's?
Since you forgot you already posted this........

LMAO!!!!!!!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

do I detect a hint of jealousy?

HA HA HA HA!
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www.Bluerosy.com

>>do I detect a hint of jealousy?
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>>HA HA HA HA!

Definitely Dementia!!!!!!!
You geezer......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Definitely Dementia!!!!!!!
You geezer......LOL

I went to see the doctore a while back about that .

The doc told me.."Well I have good news and bad news..."

I said, "Lay it on me Doc. What's the bad news?"

"You have Alzheimer's disease."

"Oh mannnnn! What's the good news?"

"You can go home and forget about it!"

Anyway, I haven't had diarrhea in a while.
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www.Bluerosy.com

>>"You can go home and forget about it!"

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I don't buy for one second this is a pure thayeri. I think you found this snake somewhere near Nowport Beach. El owe el. Just playin but it does have that Newport look. A very nice addition to your collection.

>>I don't buy for one second this is a pure thayeri. I think you found this snake somewhere near Nowport Beach. El owe el. Just playin but it does have that Newport look. A very nice addition to your collection.

LOL....I think the first one has the Tessera, Zig Zag or ZagTek Cornsnake gene and the last one has the Aberrant Ruthveni gene.....But Paul shared his lineage information..........If it is all true....I think I want a pair to mess with......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

haha Yeah, of course they could have anything in them (nothing is guaranteed) but its totally believable they could have been selectively bred over the past 20 or so years to get this look. I think that pattern would look cool in different colors too.

Busted lol! You got me on the Newporter, Ross haha. I'm pretty much 100% positive nothing have been mixed in. I've followed this line for years and had the lineage confirmed over 10 years ago when the first aberrant came out. It all started with a snake that had a long neucal blotch Mike only selectively breed from there. Also the fact that neither Jim Veverka or Mike Enyeart didn't keep any other related lampros like ruthveni, greeri, mexicana, and arcifera made it even easier. Jim Veverka's original thayeri came from Loyd Lemke the first or second year he produced them. Like I said, it was pretty easy to follow the whole thing.

PL

And whats cool about that is they are easily traced back to Loyd. Its not like they went through ten breeders hands before you got them. Cool project, good luck with em.