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Bonding and "Heavy" Feeding......

Jlassiter Aug 07, 2011 11:14 PM

Even in the Late 70s....None of this is a new concept.......

Read the first paragraph......A trio kept together....Fed 10 mice a week and these were mexicana........It can and has been done........Some folks still do it......Others follow the "cookie cutter" way now.......Both seem to work.....So quit bickering.....

http://sierraherps.com/pdf/Garstka[1]_etal_1981_surgery.pdf
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Replies (21)

GerardS Aug 07, 2011 11:25 PM

I dont remember anyone saying that you cant do any of that. They were just saying they dont like it that way. There is no wrong way as long as it works for you and the animals are healthy. Alot of people do it many ways and have good success. That way is not better than the way I or anyone on here maintain their collections. Its just another way and not wrong or right.
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Jlassiter Aug 07, 2011 11:26 PM

>>I dont remember anyone saying that you cant do any of that. They were just saying they dont like it that way. There is no wrong way as long as it works for you and the animals are healthy. Alot of people do it many ways and have good success. That way is not better than the way I or anyone on here maintain their collections. Its just another way and not wrong or right.

AND I NEVER SAID EITHER WAY WAS RIGHT OR WRONG........LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

GerardS Aug 07, 2011 11:29 PM

I wasnt saying it to you. It was just a responce to this topic that always starts a fight for some reasdon. I was just saying that before it started getting all crazt again. Sorry if it sounded like it was towards you. Goodnight.
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Jlassiter Aug 07, 2011 11:30 PM

>>I wasnt saying it to you. It was just a responce to this topic that always starts a fight for some reasdon. I was just saying that before it started getting all crazt again. Sorry if it sounded like it was towards you. Goodnight.

I know.....I was just stating that many ways work.....In the end we get baby snakes.......Nite....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 08:30 AM

ehhh I been keeping my getula in groups - and they DO NOT eat each other, of course they are BONDED though, I get that some in here have no clue what this is about..... to each his own....
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 08:32 AM

forgot to mention, you can't keep hatchlings together safely- for the noobs :D
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 08:50 AM

Who doesn't know about this? No one said anything lke that. Its just one thing they do that you let them in a cage. Whats the problem with not keeping them together? Why is that the best way to do it? I dont understand how the bonders think thats the best and only way it can be done. Seems to me its just the way that works for them. The feeding all they can eat thing is just stupid though. What wild snake finds a pile of dead rodents every other day for him/her to pick how many they want to eat. All that does is make them pump out eggs all the time. Is that a natural thing for them to do? I think FR called those snakes "Queen Bees" and said thats the problem with the hobby. So, I dont know who you are talking about not understanding about bondage?
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 10:22 AM

they bond in the wild too. Those that actually venture outside and spend time in the field have found getula living together in close/tight quarters - even when it's not breeding season (May through October). They even cohabitate with calligaster, and they don't eat them either! WOW!!!!

This is cutting edge stuff, and according to some in here it can't be done.
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 11:04 AM

I actually venture outside and observe them in the wild. Some species do hibernate together and thats fine. Who is saying that it cant be done? Who?
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 11:48 AM

>>>>>>>Who is saying that it cant be done? Who?

I am saying that it CAN be done, I do it, and it is happens in the wild. It's completely NATURAL for Kings to COHABITATE = even getula!
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 12:18 PM

I agree that they can be kept together as you and Rainer describe. I asked you who said it cant be done?
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 12:28 PM

who cares?
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 12:38 PM

You do! You said it or were you just backing up your boy. Why did you say that? Thsts just starting problems for no reason. Who said that bonding cant be done?
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 12:49 PM

no, someone in here definitely said it can't be done, but I don't remember, NOR DO I CARE whom it was......lol
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 01:21 PM

"This is cutting edge stuff, and according to some in here it can't be done"

People said it was lazy and not natural but no one said you cant do it. If you dont care dont start stuff for no reason. Whats cutting edge? Farming?
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 01:27 PM

>>"This is cutting edge stuff, and according to some in here it can't be done"
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>>People said it was lazy and not natural but no one said you cant do it. If you dont care dont start stuff for no reason. Whats cutting edge? Farming?

You've got some MAJOR COMPREHENSION problems, I said I don't care WHO said it, not I don't care. Understand the difference? Or should I type S L O W E R for you? lmao

Now, it appears that I was sharing MY opinion, and YOU wanted to start something.
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 01:38 PM

Type as fast as you like. Im not trying to argue with you. You said something. I asked you to explain. You couldnt. So now you dont care and thats not what you ment. I think I understand just fine. Have a nice day bud. I see there is no answer.
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

Joe Forks Aug 08, 2011 01:44 PM

the cutting edge comment?? Sarcasm.....

the who said it can't be done?? I still don't remember nor care....lol

Is there something else important that needs explaining?
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LOCALITY: Traceable lineage to WC snakes from the same locality.
I don't care how far apart they are (within reason) as long as the localities are stated, buyers can make up their own minds.

NON-LOCAL or GENERIC: Lineage is not traceable to WC
Generics need love too.

GerardS Aug 08, 2011 01:47 PM

Nope, I see it all now. Thank you!
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Gerard
www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

pyromaniac Aug 08, 2011 09:31 AM

forgot to mention, you can't keep hatchlings together safely- for the noobs :D
Nuts! I was going to just put all my pyro hatchlings in the same cage...just kidding! LOL!
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

varanid Aug 08, 2011 10:37 AM

Call it your self culling program. Promises only strong snakes will be sold
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