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nydon Aug 11, 2011 09:13 PM

this one was born today. Mother is a red motley. Sire is a coral snow motley. Of course this is the first one of the clutch out of the egg and has only been out for a few hours but it is quite different from any of my coral x coral, coral x red or coral by amel breedings that i have produced this year. Pictures are not great but my camera is not so good but..any initial ideas or comments?

Thanks, Don

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nydon Aug 12, 2011 12:30 AM

with the ruby eyes my first guess was lavender or hpyo lavender but are there any other possibilities? I have no homozygous lavenders in my collection so i do not have anything to compare to.

draybar Aug 12, 2011 05:22 AM

>>this one was born today. Mother is a red motley. Sire is a coral snow motley. Of course this is the first one of the clutch out of the egg and has only been out for a few hours but it is quite different from any of my coral x coral, coral x red or coral by amel breedings that i have produced this year. Pictures are not great but my camera is not so good but..any initial ideas or comments?
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>>Thanks, Don
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you mention red and amel as if they are two different things.
coral x red or coral x amel....usually red albino is a name given to amels....and not a good one...but they are the same thing. is your "red" something other then an amel and were you given a list of hets when you purchased these snakes?
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nydon Aug 12, 2011 06:06 AM

thanks for responding. over here we call normal corns red and no, i do not know either parent to be het anything. I only know that it has a ruby eye and is much darker than any of my coral snow babies. Its color (right out of the egg) is just like a ruby eye lavender cal king. All of the other eggs have pipped but are not out yet so i will see what we get tomorrow. Does it look like a lavender to you or am i way off base on this?

Shiari Aug 12, 2011 10:47 AM

It looks like a fairly standard ghost motley.

nydon Aug 13, 2011 04:30 AM

ghost was a consideration but as i said, it has (actually now there are 2 of them).... they have ruby eyes. None of my ghost corns have ruby eyes. That is why i was thinking lavender but since i have no lavenders in my collection, i do not know how to tell if that is what they are. If you look up under the various morph websites they state:

ghost : anery hypo

lavender : Recessive mutation that removes erythins (red) pigment and reduces melanin (black) pigment.

other than the wording, to me at least, those two definitions are exactly the same thing. They do not mention eye color though.

So i guess what i am really asking here is what is the visible difference between a lavender and a ghost?

a153fish Aug 12, 2011 01:42 PM

My first thought was snow. Yet doesn't really look like a snow. Maybe a ghost with the red color showing thru from the coral? You say it has ruby eyes, but it doesn't show in this picture?
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