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Anyway I had posted question about eggs asking why they would look very pink and I think I figured it out.

As I had stated the eggs were very puffy or full looking and had not dimpled at all even right before hatching. Well I had candled the eggs when they were laid so I was aware of all the blood vessels running just under the shell...these vessels support the baby ball during its growth...but when the baby ball reaches its full growth that the pressure inside the egg becomes too high and starts rupturing the vessels...this cuts off the oxygen supply for the developing baby ball and so the baby then tries to get out of the egg and slashes its shell with its egg tooth.
My friend Brian Gundy, responded and said that the mixture of water to vermiculite may have been higher than normal so the eggs filled to a greater degree with fluids...it made sense.

I had seen where others had questioned in past as why there babies would reach almost fully mature growth and yet die in the egg and never make it out...well after thinking about this...if the fluids never fill the egg enough to cause pressure to break the vessels but the egg vessels may dry at a slower rate actually too slow and thus suffocating the baby in the egg. This is just my thoughts about this...I am very green to eggs...and I am trying to learn all I can.
Hope this helps someone.
Andy

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ajfreptiles.com

too much fluid too much pressure...eggs can and will die I think...talked about it with a bunch of people over the years....

eggs can hatch and will if full or too full....not always bad...

eggs can hatch if half the shell space is actually empty.....

sometimes eggs die for no reason known to us...

sometimes eggs die if they go too long term and there is something wrong...like too much or too little moisture...the wrong kind of moisture...not enough heat...too much heat....not enough oxygen...aaaah....

pink eggs....the eggs usually have live veins running around the inside right up to the time they pip......pink?....I've seen it.....and if we cut the eggs the veins are still alive till we cut and the neonate actually breathes their first breathes?...then if they turn pink it would be from the shell being overrun with bacteria? at tiems , giving them a pinkish hue...?...but if pink before we cut or they pip?....

I have had pinkish eggs when laid....the shells were too thin....

.......try not to over saturate the vermiculite...it's hard at times....

.good luck....
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........JY

Thank you so much for the info!!! Awesome!

Andy
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ajfreptiles.com

you had correct thoughts...as you said...you asked the other guy...I forget if it was Brian ?...
I talked long ago with Brian Barcyck about this stuff...swelled eggs,...why and how it affects babies....

I hate huge fat swelled eggs....I do get them and actually have 2 incubators full of them right now...

I have these because I HAD a full incubator that dried up and almost all died....and you all would cry and tell noone if you killed what I did in this incubator this year ! LOL...(what can you do after they are done)...

.....just find the corrwect boxes,,,number of holes...temps...place in the home ! makes a big difference...upstairs in a bedroom...not for me....in the wet damp celler....yep...stable temps and high humidity....

good luck....keep an eye on them eggs people....don't be afraid to move them and start over...

maybe to a box of sawdust (mulch actually) on the floor of the bedroom???
(if you live in Togo,Ghana,Benin....)...

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........JY

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>>Anyway I had posted question about eggs asking why they would look very pink and I think I figured it out.
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>>As I had stated the eggs were very puffy or full looking and had not dimpled at all even right before hatching. Well I had candled the eggs when they were laid so I was aware of all the blood vessels running just under the shell...these vessels support the baby ball during its growth...but when the baby ball reaches its full growth that the pressure inside the egg becomes too high and starts rupturing the vessels...this cuts off the oxygen supply for the developing baby ball and so the baby then tries to get out of the egg and slashes its shell with its egg tooth.

>>I had seen where others had questioned in past as why there babies would reach almost fully mature growth and yet die in the egg and never make it out...well after thinking about this...if the fluids never fill the egg enough to cause pressure to break the vessels but the egg vessels may dry at a slower rate actually too slow and thus suffocating the baby in the egg. This is just my thoughts about this...I am very green to eggs...and I am trying to learn all I can.
>>Hope this helps someone.
>>Andy

Andy,

I think you are a little confused with egg veins/vessels. The egg NEVER fills with enough pressure to break vessels. This is why most eggs dimple about a week prior to hatching.

The egg however, can absorb too much water from the substrate and cause other problems.

The veins/vessels within the egg will shrink as the snake is getting ready to use its lungs. The shrinking of the vessels is why the snake pips with its egg tooth. It is now time for the snake to use its lungs instead of the veins/vessels that have been supplying the snake with oxygen through the egg wall for 54-60 days.

I hope this helps
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Best regards,
AlanColesReptiles

Awesome info!!! Thanks very much.

Andy
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ajfreptiles.com

Andy,

If you follow the instructions in this video your eggs will always dimple.

The reason why some of us cut our eggs is to minimize the possibility that the babies will drown after pipping. If the eggs dimple the chance of them drowning is deminished.

Congratulations again bud.

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

I was always under the assumption that the pink eggs were a lack of calcium issue. IDK.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Yes if pink ish when laid...thin shell weird look flimsy to hold...

he was talking at the days of hatching....???...

maybe just as they are ready to hatch they absorb alot of water into the shells at times...and feel softer? and or , become pinkish then also?....

I gotta start watching my eggs' color ....(wear glasses more too)...!
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........JY