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Possible unexpected outcome?

zippy00_99 Aug 25, 2011 10:15 AM

Last year I witnessed many locks between my male albino and my female mojave. She did not go for me last year (she was 1700g during compulations in nov, dec, and jan) (now 2100g), but if I wanted to do a different pairing this year, what are the chances that she retained sperm and will kick out mojaves and normals that are het for albino? If I put a yellowbelly to her this year and I get yellowbellies, mojave yellowbellies, mojaves and normals, the mojaves and normals could (in theory) be het for albanism right? Now if I put a super pastel to her and made anything but pastels and pastaves than I could 100% be certain that the normals and mojaves are het albino, but my question is...

HOW GOOD of a chance is it that she retained the sperm form last winter?

Thanks
Matt

Replies (8)

paulbuckley Aug 25, 2011 10:31 AM

as you say, unless you put a super to her, you cannot be sure.

for example, last year i bred a 100% het for both pied and albino male to a female that is 100% het for albino / 50% het for pied. they had multiple locks but she did not lay. this season i bred her to a visual pied, which resulted in only one viable egg. it hatched out a very pretty super light wild type.

i cannot sell that snake as 100% het for pied - what if it was last years sperm? chances are it is not, but then we've all seen cases of sperm retention on these threads.

so she'll go up for sale as poss het for both, or given as a freebie to someone who does another purchase. just not worth having someone call in a few years saying i'm not getting pieds out of this gal.

amcroyals Aug 25, 2011 01:58 PM

....unless you put a super to her, you cannot be sure.
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200sxguy Aug 25, 2011 03:33 PM

i believe that if you bread a mojave last year and say a yellowbelly this year to the same albino the whole clutch would be 100% het for albino and you could get both mojave and yellowbelly that are het but you will not get yellowbelly mojave hets cause 2 dads cant father the same egg. good luck and as long as you don't but a het to the albino you should be just fine
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JYohe Aug 25, 2011 05:33 PM

I think they do not retain from year to year ...they know there are males around...and don't have to...young first time females may in theory hold it but I still think not...

I never had a female hold sperm from year to year...pretty sure 100% on that

and I actually set a female to a male / project,,,and don't switch if I am making just double hets lets say...like the amel to pied...she bred and bred ,0 eggs last year, this year...bred and bred..finally laid a week ago....only one male ever used on her....

....go for it....
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kissofdeath Aug 25, 2011 08:10 PM

ive had females retain sperm. last year we bred a lesser male to alot of stuff. we only had one. we only got three lesser pastels last year. this year we do not have the lesser anymore. & the offspring he produced last year were all girls. i have 12 lesser babies this year. so sperm can be retained if they did not lay the year b4. as for the genetics. the 200 guy is right. u should get mojave 100% & yb 100%. no yb mojave crosses. bc the albinism gene is one the females side. regardless of what u breed her to the gene is there.

tat2darin Aug 27, 2011 01:01 AM

Wow, do y'all even read the OP before you start typing? MALE albino. Female MOJO....
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zippy00_99 Aug 27, 2011 09:49 AM

np

toshamc Aug 27, 2011 01:38 PM

I have had females lay one year be paired up with another morph the following year and produce offspring from the current year father but the previous years father as well.

This year my spider produced eggs and I haven't bred her in two seasons - yeah she did lay the last season I bred her.

They retain.
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