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Why exactly are you doing this? Isn't bad enough that kingsnake "enthusiast" on here keep downing the mutation versions of what they keep???

As Will pointed out people listen 2 you because you're suppose to be knowledgeable when it comes to floridana but all I see you're doing is causing a problem for myself and others who work with floridana morphs... If you're bored find something else to do. This is getting really old and really tired.

You made the same clam about the lavender albino then u (kinda) took it back after others pointed out that lavender floridana HAVE popped up in wild caught stock.

It seems like every couple of years you just have to put your foot in your mouth!

My 2nd point:

The argument of wild type vs mutated is irritating.. As ALL morphs originate from "wild type" parental stock. They don't just synthesize out of thin air, they are around because it's in the animals' DNA. "Wild type" is just that wild type! The phenotype that is most suitable for WILD populations to florish. Why some are still looking for WC example they remember from 30 years ago baffles me as living organisms progress, change, evolve! What else do you expect when you stick animals in boxes and eliminate their predators? You allow genes that are not suitable for survival in nature to flourish in captive populations.

I don't work with ANY WC/ captive hached floridana, not because I don't like them it's because I have a greater interest in mutations, do I down WC animals no! I don't care about unity among those who work with kingsnakes no! all I'd appreciate is mutual respect for what I and many others do.

~ZF

Amen. (To your 2nd point). I feel the same way regarding designer morphs. How else would I be able to justify to my wife why I have so many snakes? It'd be kind of hard if they all looked like identical wc's. Lol! Whatever - I love all my snakes.

Good post Zenny.

(Btw - I've been a little busy lately)

Thanks Zenny for the excellent post!!!!It needed to be said!!!!

Pat

The majority of the general public do not like snakes to begin with. More often then not, it's the colorful and unique, designer morph that is often what someone, (who would normally not even THINK about owning a snake) ESPECIALLY children, will stop and look at, and even admit is striking and beautiful...and it's due to the colors and pattern. Without morphs, there would undoubtedly be far fewer "first timers".

The ones of us who grew up catching snakes and other critters are largely the ones who appreciate the phenotypes and their locales...notice I said "us". That's because that's how I started too, and so this is why I too, still maintain a number of normals. But your average joe, without this background is likely to prefer something a little more eye-catching. It's human nature. It's the same in almost every aspect of life, just look around in our modern culture.

I don't understand the conflict here.

I don't understand the conflict here.

Oooh! I understand it to well. If you stick around a few years and get to know some of the people involved you won'y like where they are coming from. i don't want to get into bringing up the history cause it will just a mile long riot thread.

But yes I agree with Zennys second point and I am sick of it as well.
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