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Bob's Baby Bluebellies!

pyromaniac Sep 02, 2011 04:39 PM


In the bottom of a cottage cheese container while I upgraded their living quarters to a bigger tub. Not exactly the most exotic reptiles but I sure get a kick out of them. When I put them into their new bigger tub they ran up and down the big log doing pushups, nabbing crickets, and in general having a great time exploring their new digs.

If you look very closely you can see a couple at the far end, and one off to the right. Taking the photo with the screen lid raised was a chancy affair but nobody escaped. The jar lid of food is for the crickets. I have to put it out in the open lest the lizards sleep in it at night. The crickets have a jar lid of water crystals under the bark. There is about two inches of clean topsoil for substrate.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

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mrkent Sep 02, 2011 06:18 PM

Do you fine that the crickets hide so well from the lizards that they don't get eaten? Or do you go in and stir things up once in a while so they come out of hiding?
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.18 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

pyromaniac Sep 02, 2011 06:54 PM

The crickets tend to wander around on top of the topsoil substrate. They also crawl around on the wood and in their food and water crystal dishes, easy pickings for the lizards. They will also hole up in the nooks and crannies of the wood, but the lizards are hep to that, and know to look for them there.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

trevid Sep 02, 2011 06:49 PM

and thats a cool set up! They look great. congrats on your 100% hatch rate. As I use fence lizards purly as a scenting tool for my baby greybands, I find this thread very on-topic...Dave.

pyromaniac Sep 02, 2011 06:58 PM

Thanks! Because so many people need scenting lizards but not everyone knows how to keep fencies or find it very hard to obtain them, I like to post how to do this. I originally got into keeping fencies when I first got pyros, but then found they are very interesting in their own right.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

mrkent Sep 02, 2011 11:26 PM

Bob that setup is great. My setup is very spartan.

Here are the two that Dave sent me. There seems to be alot of variation in their colors, as these two are very different from each other. They both have some blue on their bellies.


Bob your instructions for sexing them are great! I have two males. The enlarged post-anal scales and femoral pores are easy to see, but I couldn't get good pics. I wish snakes were so easy to sex.
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.18 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

pyromaniac Sep 03, 2011 09:56 AM

Nice couple of males!
I would suggest, though that you give them a couple of inches of clean top soil instead of aspen, as the crickets hide in the aspen really well and the lizards have a hard time finding them. Also the habit of the lizards is to bury themselves in soil at night. Put a flat piece of bark or other wood over a spot on the soil, as a hide. If the tub is large enough give them a piece of drift wood to bask on, but make sure it has two basking sites as the males will argue over the site if there is only one good site.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

mrkent Sep 03, 2011 01:00 PM

I have them in a small critter keeper right now, so there is not room for much in the way of logs, basking spots etc. Here are a couple of pics of the two critter keepers, one with anoles, the other with fence lizards.


I have a UVA light on its side for heat and light. They sit at the end closest to the light most of the day. The light is off at night. I know it is very minimal but it will have to do for now.
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.18 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

trevid Sep 03, 2011 02:13 PM

Let me know if you want a female...Now that I know how to tell them apart, it shouldn't be too hard to find one...i think...Dave

mrkent Sep 03, 2011 04:40 PM

Dave, if you want to send a couple of females that would be great, but you might want to wait a little bit. We are having another "heat wave" in Southwest Washington, so it might be too hot for them to be driving around in a mail truck all day. It is supposed to be in the upper 80s to low 90s for the next week or so. That might not seem like a heat wave to some parts of the country, but it is pretty hot for us Pacific Northwesterners!
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.18 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

trevid Sep 03, 2011 02:18 PM

not to worry, this bluebelly got away. If you look closly, you can see that the alameda whipsnake has a small twig in his mouth keeping the lizard safe. While unhappy at the moment, the lizard does get away....Dave.

mrkent Sep 03, 2011 04:33 PM

Thats one lucky lizard, or unlucky snake, depending on your point of view!
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.18 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

Bluerosy Sep 03, 2011 06:35 PM

holy cow! An alameda whipsnake!!! When did you see this ? Are these your pics?
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trevid Sep 04, 2011 03:51 AM

My son and I were hiking in Sunol, Ca when we saw a little commotion going on in some shrubs. He snuck in and took the picture. He watched it for a moment, then the snake let go and took off...Wild....Dave.

pyromaniac Sep 04, 2011 09:54 AM

What an extraordinary photo! Have saved it to my hard drive.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

SlytherLyn Sep 03, 2011 07:50 PM

Looks like the little lizard is holding the twig and using it to pry himself free All of them should go around carrying prying twigs for just such an emergency. Awesome pic! Happy for the lizard, bummed for the snake...

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pyromaniac Sep 04, 2011 10:25 AM

Or they could hire armed guards...

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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

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