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Do high whites make high white pieds?

mikebell Sep 07, 2011 11:22 AM

I don't know the answer to that question. Maybe pied to pied, like this clutch improves the chances of high white pieds. As you can see the mother isn't high white, about 50%. I took the pictures of her on the eggs because she made such a nice cone, almost like a Children's Python. The father was more white. The two small ones on the right are twins. The two on the left are the males.



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R.Mikkelsen Sep 07, 2011 11:35 AM

I bred a high white Pied male to a het.female and the 2 Pied babys are High white..
all I can say
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mikebell Sep 07, 2011 11:40 AM

Take the one on the left and turn it clockwise 90 degrees, you have a smiley face. I had a smiley before, it sold quick.

PiedPeddler Sep 07, 2011 07:27 PM

I answered that question for a customer today, I'll save a few key strokes and just paste it in:
I'd like to tell you it doesn't matter at all, but I don't believe that. Low-whites do produce high-whites and you can't expect a high-white to produce high-whites. But there is a trend in the appearance of offspring. I have breeders that I know will produce mostly high-white or mostly low-white offspring based on the appearance of their previous clutches as well as the trends within their lineage. Even with these trends, some of the highest-white Pieds we've produced have been in low-white clutches from snakes that produce mostly low-white offspring, they just turn up less frequently. So you could get a high-white animal that produces mostly low-white offspring, or the other way around, and of course both parents can influence that! That is why people say it doesn't matter. I do not necessarily expect the babies to look like the parents, but after breeding several lineages for several generations, I do see trends.
Regarding the Pied X Pied concept... No, not higher whites. We have bred Pied X Pied to produce entire clutch of low-whites.
- Paul

PiedPeddler Sep 07, 2011 07:31 PM

Congrat's on a nice clutch!
- Paul

mikebell Sep 07, 2011 07:37 PM

I guess I just got lucky on all counts. High whites, good sex ratio 2.5, and the twins. Hopefully they will all start off on rats on the first attempt. OK, maybe that is asking for too much.

PiedPeddler Sep 07, 2011 07:45 PM

Lucky? Maybe this year. But now you know you can expect similar results from that same pairing in the future and then call it skill! I don't imagine the twins will start out on rats, but you can always hope!
- Paul

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