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Variable Kings

CBI Sep 16, 2011 11:29 PM

Okay maybe not 100% truthful, but man these 2011 Jellies came out variable! They came from a few different lines and yes some are males and some are females, but the contrast of these is just incredible!

Enjoy!

First a cool PB lol!

First Jelly of the season...

And finally my favorite of the year, this really dark female!

Thanks for lookin, here's to a great season for everyone next year!

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Jeremy Thompson
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Replies (14)

Jlassiter Sep 17, 2011 12:12 AM

All VERY NICE Jeremy.....

But.....
Variable Kings (Thayeri) are more variable without any fancy morph names and such......LOL
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John Lassiter
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Bluerosy Sep 17, 2011 12:20 AM

Variable Kings (Thayeri) are more variable without any fancy morph names and such......LOL

Yeah just call them "hybrids" LOL!
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CBI Sep 17, 2011 09:28 AM

Haha thanks John and don't listen to Rainer, your Thayeri are awesome! lol
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Jeremy Thompson
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Jlassiter Sep 17, 2011 12:17 PM

>>Haha thanks John and don't listen to Rainer, your Thayeri are awesome! lol

Yea....most of the time I don't listen to Rainer......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

rosspadilla Sep 17, 2011 01:17 AM

Very nice. I like that first one.
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CBI Sep 17, 2011 09:29 AM

That spotted PB hatched out the most extreme of its siblings. I hope with some line breeding that can become a trait to breed for.
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Jeremy Thompson
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DISCERN Sep 17, 2011 02:39 AM

All gorgeous specimens!

The pics are awesome as well, with the focus of the heads really standing out.

Good stuff!!
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Genesis 1:1

CBI Sep 17, 2011 09:31 AM

Thanks Billy, so many pictures were taken to get those and even some of those I am not all that impressed with but those babies will only sit there for so long lol! Don't you have a jelly male? Post up some updated pics of him if you get a chance
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Jeremy Thompson
Captive Born Investments Inc.
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DISCERN Sep 17, 2011 02:11 PM

Oh yea, that is the key to pic taking in terms of quantity in a small amount of time before the little dudes go tearing off somewhere. Take as many as you can, don't stop to look at the picture window, just keep shooting. For some of them, you only have that one window of opportunity before they get a whiff of not being in the cage, and then taking off like Burt Reynolds in Cannibal Run. LOL!

I do need to get some updated pics of my male jelly. All I have is the usual ones I do post, such as this one below:

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Genesis 1:1

a153fish Sep 17, 2011 09:12 AM

Some of those are obvious Jellies, but some of them look so different, How can you distinguish the Jellies?
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CBI Sep 17, 2011 09:39 AM

Great question Jorge, some of them are so light and some are so dark that they look like different morphs. The reason that I know they are all Jellies is because of what the parents were.

All but a few came from either Jelly x T Negative (Yields Jellies and T negs) or PB x T Negative (Yields all Jellies). The thing that I played with this year is deciding which Jellies, T Negs, and PBs to pair up with which in order to get the most contrast. The insanely dark ones that I posted come from the Swampland line which seems to also throw PBs, yet the PBs from those breedings are very obviously PBs and much lighter than these Jellies.

Another thing to consider if you are breeding Jelly x Jelly for example (because it will yield PBs as well as T Negs and Jellies) is which of the questionable ones are males and which are females. Jelly males are for the most part much brighter, lighter, and easily distinguishable (especially after a few sheds). Jelly females tend to be very dark and stay that way. Having seen a fair amount of both PBs and Jellies in my own collection as well as in others (and pictures), it seems to have helped me pick up on the little things that separate them and is starting to make me feel more like a Ball Python guy haha!

The head pattern is also helps me determine one from the other if I am in doubt. And if I really can't decide (happened with one animal so far this year).... I will just keep it and breed it to something that will prove it out one way or another.
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Jeremy Thompson
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a153fish Sep 17, 2011 09:53 AM

that was a good answer! I should have considered that you know the parents, so that would be a huge peice of the puzzle, thanks!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

CBI Sep 17, 2011 11:16 AM

No problem, I'm sure there were a few others wondering the same thing!
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Jeremy Thompson
Captive Born Investments Inc.
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Jeremy@captiveborninvestments.net
941-323-4850

JR56 Sep 19, 2011 02:18 PM

Great post, also great pictures. I was wondering the same thing myself. Thanks much for the info. What distinquises one from another in the head pattern?
Jeff
www.4lakessnakes

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