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trying to take a good pic

bigtman Sep 19, 2011 03:45 AM

Well here is Annabella my axanthic Fl King(brooks), She is an 2010, loves to eat. Just thought I would try and take a good picture of her. So here it is.
Thanks for looking.

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Tom S
1.1 Flame Lampropeltis getla Floridana
1.0 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Axanthic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
1.1 High Yellow Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
1.0 Anerythristic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
1.2 Tangerine Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis het albino

Replies (30)

Bluerosy Sep 19, 2011 09:16 AM

Hey she is a nice snake. Do you have a male to match up with her.
Males get biggr and lighter than female axanthic brooks.

Try taking a pic of them outside on an overcast day. I find that overcast days with no flash to be the best to bring out true colors.
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a153fish Sep 19, 2011 05:12 PM

I don't have any Axanthics yet, but should produce some next season. Thanks for the pic.
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Bluerosy Sep 19, 2011 07:43 PM

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Thats going to be interesting how you make axanthics without the axanthic trait....... You must mean hets.

To me the axanthic are the classic staple in Florida king (brooksi) morphs IF tey aren't outcrossed into nothern stock. i remember when Lloyd lemeke had the first ones... he described tham as looking like "blue wax" on his price list. I was intrigued but nobdoy cared back then as there were no other traits to breed them into. They were out before the hypos.

With all teh florida morphs i have. I still have a thing for the single trait axanthics.
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a153fish Sep 19, 2011 07:51 PM

I have some possible hets at least, and I have that ghost which carries the Axanthic gene, as well as a female hypo that carries it. Oh I also have a snow female, and a lavender het for Axanthic. Think before you jump froggy!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

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DMong Sep 19, 2011 08:32 PM

Yeah Jorge, absolutely no way any axanthics could EVER be possible there..LOL!

~Doug
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Bluerosy Sep 20, 2011 10:09 AM

Of course i was joking. What do you guys think i do here? I play with gentics on many many combinations and many levels.

You 2 dillweeds are always trying to take a swipe at me at every chance you get. Anyone that knows me sees it is obvious you are playing the crowd.

that what i get for being nice.
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nananananananannana-i can't hear you!-nananananananana!

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GerardS Sep 20, 2011 12:48 PM

You disappeared after this.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1945185,1945600
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Gerard
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GONE FISHING!!!

Jlassiter Sep 20, 2011 01:48 PM

>>You disappeared after this.
>>http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1945185,1945600

Separate Strains does not mean incompatible?
All the same gene/trait, but from different lines/strains......

Different lines same trait as with Amel Ruthveni and Amel Nelsoni.........
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Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Bluerosy Sep 20, 2011 02:07 PM

Gerard,
I didn't dissapear after that. I thought that was common knowledge.I guess it wasn't to you and others. In a few years a few new newbies will be here and ya'll be gone and I have to keep starting the herpetoculture lesson 101 all over again I guess.

If you check the archives i was the first person to breed a Beard hypo and Kysco hypo to the Love line to prove they were compatiple. Back then people (here on this forum) thought they were incompatiple. I roved them wrong. This is old history.

Children go back to playing in the playground until you are ready to play with the big boys..
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nananananananannana-i can't hear you!-nananananananana!

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GerardS Sep 20, 2011 03:19 PM

My point was not to fight but to point out that there were different lines. You said Doug didn't produce his own because they all came from the loves line. I know they are all compatible. Where is the lesson. Seems you said something and then a couple people corrected you and then poof, your gone. What we were talking about was Kevin selling Doug his hypos and you saying doug didn't produce his own line. Now your saying he did have his own ?
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Gerard
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GONE FISHING!!!

Bluerosy Sep 20, 2011 05:58 PM

Doug did not find his own line. but bred the Love stock he got from Kevin maxwell into new stock. That changes the lines sine unrelated stock was bred in.

I know it is no big deal now. But back then it made a difference. So much so people thought the snakes were incompatiple.

Second the only reason i replie about the lines versus traits is because of the link you posted which Foxturtle said the snakes were the same gene.

Gosh this internet forums are so hard to trace back why we are arguing.
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nananananananannana-i can't hear you!-nananananananana!

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GerardS Sep 20, 2011 07:13 PM

That's funny because all you have to do is read back and you can see what we were arguing about. You have made a lot of floridana but you didn't make the first morphs and you had nothing to do with it. So your word against the person who did? That doesn't equal anything. I understand Ding Dong.....now that's crazy!
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Gerard
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GONE FISHING!!!

Bluerosy Sep 20, 2011 07:54 PM

You have made a lot of floridana but you didn't make the first morphs and you had nothing to do with it

neither did Doug Beard.

kevein knows about this but does not want to get involved on an open forum from something that happened almost 20 years ago. I have the inside scoop and probably should have kept my mouth shut over respect to kevin.

As far as Doug. I can understand why he didn't want people toknow that the hypos came from somebody else. At that time they were immensly popular. The loves had to make a list from people who wanted them and sent out notice on their pricelist to make a reservation at 12 noon on such and such date. I tried and called continously for over 5 hours. by the time I got through, they were sold out.

Doug had them at the show and peple crowed around with money in hand. most had their $1400. in cash and were fighting for position. I got behind the crowd and got a nominal runt for him for $700. I also remember what he told people back then. There was no mention of another breeder and the story was he caught the parnets and started his own line.

Now if you want to see pics of the very first hypos ever born and in existence. It was kevin maxwell who produce them and had them first. He has pics to back it up along with others who can testify when he hatched them out. During that time the Loves did not know they had het hypos.

now if you ask kevin what he did with those hypos he will tell you they went to doug beard.

Now any intteligent person with any sense can tell the chances of Doug beard finding his OWN collected stock and producing them the SAME time that he was able to raise up kevins stock,,,well, remarkable coincindence isnt it?
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nananananananannana-i can't hear you!-nananananananana!

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GerardS Sep 20, 2011 09:14 PM

"Now any intteligent person with any sense can tell the chances of Doug beard finding his OWN collected stock and producing them the SAME time that he was able to raise up kevins stock,,,well, remarkable coincindence isnt it?"

I know you don't like Doug but you have no proof. He hatched out albino nelsoni too. Don't forget that as well. They came out of two normals that he bought. I know a lot of people that have hatched out albinos and other morphs from WC animals. Three other people hatched hypos from WC stock. So I would say the chances are pretty damn good. Also, did Kevin collect the animals that produced the first hypos? Which I never said he didn't produce them first. I said that Doug produced hypos from his own WC animals. Stop being a Ding Dong and just say "I don't know what I'm talking about". You will feel better.
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GONE FISHING!!!

Bluerosy Sep 20, 2011 09:56 PM

If you would think back on the history of the hypos they all came from the Love stock. Myself and others already explained that in the thread below.
kevin hatched his out his first but the unkown hets cme from the Loves. He did not collect the stock himself. Neither did the other people. they acquired unkown hets from the loves.
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nananananananannana-i can't hear you!-nananananananana!

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GerardS Sep 20, 2011 10:13 PM

So, thinking back......

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1945185,1945584
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1945185,1945406

These got loose from the loves and he caught them next door?

 
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Gerard
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GONE FISHING!!!

GerardS Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM


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Bluerosy Sep 21, 2011 02:39 PM

Poof/?

Certain individuals take the opportinity to make themselves seem more accomplished by misrepresenting the origins of animals to suit their needs.

Thats all i got to say man.
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GerardS Sep 21, 2011 03:13 PM

Just found your new slogan.
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Gerard
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GONE FISHING!!!

a153fish Sep 20, 2011 05:16 PM

>>Of course i was joking. What do you guys think i do here? I play with gentics on many many combinations and many levels.
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>>You 2 dillweeds are always trying to take a swipe at me at every chance you get. Anyone that knows me sees it is obvious you are playing the crowd.
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>>that what i get for being nice.
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I wasn't trying to take a swipe at you or play the crowd, lol. Whatever that means. You came out with a smart comment first, about producing Axanthics with out having any Axantics. I see no joke there? I guess I don't get your humor. Good thing you make a living selling snakes! You would not make it as a comedian. Oh crap, was that another swipe?
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

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DISCERN Sep 20, 2011 08:09 PM

" Good thing you make a living selling snakes! You would not make it as a comedian. Oh crap, was that another swipe? "

Now, THAT is funny!!
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Genesis 1:1

Bluerosy Sep 20, 2011 09:57 PM

actually you bit the hand that almost fed you. I was leading to something , but oh well.
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a153fish Sep 21, 2011 05:27 PM

>>actually you bit the hand that almost fed you. I was leading to something , but oh well.
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I've been scratching my head about this comment all night! First you make a smart comment on a post I made to some else, that had nothing to do with you. Then when I come back with a little humor of my own, you get your panties in a not, and say, you were gonna feed me something? What? So bizarre!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

DISCERN Sep 21, 2011 07:13 PM

Jorge,

Speaking of feeding, please do the following:

1. Go to Wingstop and order 25 Garlic Parm wings and a large order of fries with two sides of ranch and one blue cheese.
2. Drive over to my house.
3. Give them to me. In that instance, you may be doing what is called 'feeding' them to DISCERN.

Sound like a plan?
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Genesis 1:1

a153fish Sep 22, 2011 04:08 PM

Billy, I don't guarantee I'll end up with 25 by the time I get there, lol!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

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DISCERN Sep 22, 2011 05:21 PM

I would understand! HA HA!
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Genesis 1:1

CBI Sep 20, 2011 06:13 PM

Jorge,

Not to jump in when it's not my place, but the poss het axanthics are the only thing that give you a chance of producing a plain axanthic... Ghost x Hypo Het axan will give you hypos and ghosts. Snow x Lav het axan will give you lavs and snows. Neither pairing will yeild axanthics. only the poss hets have a chance.

And im not pointing that out to peeve you or whatever, just wanted point it out so that you do not do those pairings with the intentions of getting axanthics and then being disappointed. Hope that made some sense
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Jeremy Thompson
Captive Born Investments Inc.
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a153fish Sep 20, 2011 07:14 PM

I know what your saying, but I could breed the ghost, snow, or their mates to the possible hets. I could also breed the ghost to the snow.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

CBI Sep 20, 2011 10:06 PM

For sure, just with the way you stated your pairings it made me think.
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Jeremy Thompson
Captive Born Investments Inc.
www.captiveborninvestments.net
Jeremy@captiveborninvestments.net
941-323-4850

rosspadilla Sep 19, 2011 05:16 PM

Nice one! That is one of my favorite FL king morphs.
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