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Los Angeles Co Mudd Morph Cal King

Paul Lynum Sep 21, 2011 09:41 AM

I haven't been checking the forums lately. I've been practically living in the field herping. It's been a banner year and nowhere close to over. I'm still going to keep going til the end of Oct. But, while home for a little bit I thought I would share my favorite new additions to the collection. No, it's not a Baja "nitida" king but an F1 Los Angeles Co., CA "Mudd Morph Cal King" Gary Keasler gave me an awesome pair of them last month. These are probably the rarest natural occurring morph there is in the wild. Most of their siblings were regular brown and yellow banded. Pretty neat stuff.

Thanks

Paul Lynum

Replies (10)

Bluerosy Sep 21, 2011 10:07 AM

I looove those!
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Bluerosy Sep 21, 2011 10:10 AM

I've been practically living in the field herping. It's been a banner year and nowhere close to over.

Where re you sarching? Any new rosy boa ranges? Any cool kingsnakes you can share with us? How about a cool feild herping story or two?
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Kerby... Sep 21, 2011 11:33 AM

Nice hypermelanistic. I produced one this year that might be it's twin.

Kerby...
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CrimsonKing Sep 21, 2011 12:16 PM

sorta reminds me of this guy.....

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Kerby... Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM

Kerby...
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rosspadilla Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM

Yeah, they are awesome, Paul. My favorite out of all the Cal king morphs. I had the pleasure of herping with Don Huffman back in 2006 who is the only person, to this day, to find this morph in the wild. He found two females in the early 2000's. He collected a male from the same area and bred it to one of his females. Out of the clutch, 2 were Mud morphs, so the male must have been het. He gave one of those to Gary Keasler and gave me the other a few years later in 2009. That same year or early 2010 he ended up giving Gary the 2 wild caught females. You're the 4th person I know now that has got a pair from Gary and he gives them away free which is the cool part. For anyone into locality kings, this is the coolest morph to get because they are the newest thing right now and one of the rarest in the wild. Here's one of the original females Don found in 2003 out in the field. As you can see, it was in the blue at the time.

Hubbs has to get some credit for this morph because he was the one that showed Don where to lay his boards. The way it all fell together was really neat. Hubbs was working one day and got to talking to a near by resident about snakes. That guy told Brian his son had found a really dark brown banded king with a brown belly (Whittier morph) over by a certain street. A lot of us have searched that area since and have come up empty on that morph.
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Rick Staub Sep 21, 2011 04:11 PM

Nice snake Paul.

So why are these any different from the other hypermelanistics out there other than they are from further south and not commonly found? I could put up a pic of a Davis blackbelly and they would look the same. Or is there some character that defines these guys as unique other than their locality? Has anyone crossed them with the hypers from the Valley to see if the genetics are compatible? I have always been curious about this even for nitida.
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rosspadilla Sep 21, 2011 04:52 PM

The main difference is where they are from, which might not be important to everyone, but it is to guys like me that live in the County they are found. They are pretty much identical to some of the BB's I've seen pictures of from up north. A lot of the BB's from up north have much more of a speckled appearance on the sides, which is definitely different from these, but then again only 2 have been found in the wild, which is a very small sample size. Kerby says the Northern BB's are compatible with the Southern Baja forms, so I'm sure these are too. Its really interesting how this gene can pop up in 3 different areas so far apart.
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Rick Staub Sep 21, 2011 06:04 PM

A friend of mine used to wonder if the primitive pattern was that of the hypermelanistic snakes and that the banded form came later and took over range wide. That would better explain how we now have isolated pops of these hypermelanistic animals throughout the Cal king range. These are just the remnants of or a derivative of what once was.
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rosspadilla Sep 21, 2011 06:36 PM

Yeah, I think Hubbs mentions that in his book. He must have got that from you or your friend. It does make some sense. I've thought about all that a lot and its nothing I could ever figure out.
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