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I take the fifth...

boaphile Sep 25, 2011 03:38 PM

Well this marks the fifth litter I have produced in 26 consecutive years of breeding Boas. Another Parthenogenic litter. This is not at all what I was shooting for, though to be completely forthright, I did not even know this female was gravid. She was in a top cage that I can only see into from on top of a foot stool. If she would have been in a lower cage, I think I would have noticed the gravid behavior. As it turns out, I did not pay close enough attention, and yet she produced ten babies and a handful of slugs.

5- Anerythristics
1- Sharp Albino
2- Sharp Snows
3- Normals het for absolutely nothing.

This is the fifth one that I have a reasonable logical reason to believe is a Partho reproduction. It is really interesting I suppose. I can't help but believe there is something about how I do things that seems to make my girls more likely to do this. It's strange.

The breeding? Mom is a double het Sharp Snow. Dad? Well the male that bred her is a possible Het Prodigy, but he is not the father of any of these babies. They are all females. Oh well...

I think maybe I am just looking for attention from Dr. Warren Booth. hehe

Last litter of this season... Then again who knows? I thought I had my last litter 6 days ago. LOL


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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

Replies (9)

LarM Sep 25, 2011 04:20 PM

Couple of Sharp Snows . . . not bad for your first Snow Boas !

Lets see those Paradise Snows next season

. . . Lar M
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boaphile Sep 25, 2011 05:08 PM

np
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

combs reptiles Sep 25, 2011 06:51 PM

what a way to cap off a stellar season.
That is amazing.
Two 1 in 16 snakes in such a small litter to top it off.

Unreal!... I could use a little snow down here!

Mike

rainbowsrus Sep 26, 2011 12:06 PM

really does make me wonder....

How many partho babies are produced that go unnoticed because they fall into "expected" outcomes?

For example a DH snow female x TH moonglow male. Any non hypo female baby, regardless of visual phenotype "could" be a partho baby right?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

boaphile Sep 27, 2011 07:36 AM

That's correct Dr. Dave. A breeding like the one I just had makes it more obvious to see what happened. But I'm sure you are right that this happens with some greater regularity than we know.
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

Rick Staub Sep 28, 2011 12:07 PM

Wouldn't the normals be possible hets for anery or Sharp amel?
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Rick Staub

rainbowsrus Sep 29, 2011 10:13 AM

If I understand the Partho theory correctly, The female still only passes one set of genes to the offspring, that set gets duplicated. So in every gene pair, the baby has two copies of the same original gene.

In a simple example, partho babies from a het Albino female would either be Albino or normal, no hets.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Rick Staub Sep 29, 2011 04:16 PM

Thanks. I had not thought of it in that way.
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Rick Staub

boaphile Sep 30, 2011 07:41 AM

That is correct Dr. Dave. Those babies would be homozygous for every single solitary trait in it's genes. Every one. So a normal cannot be het for anything.
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

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