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Bred a Spider and a Pin to a normal female last year and ended up with 2 Pins, 2 spiders, a ???, and several normals. The catch, the pins, spiders, and ???, don't look like normal pins spiders and normals. PIc of clutch mates and three pins, one dark, one light, and aberrant pattern exceptionally light one.

Another pic of just the male

last pic of three different pins

Belly shot?
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Belly shot of the unknown looking male.

id say you need to post pics of mom. imo the one "pin" looks like there is more to her than just the one gene. and the one aberrant one looks pretty sweet. if mom has something else that the aberrant one has, then maybe the one "pin" has the aberrant gene as well
adam jeffery
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That one looks like a chocolate pin.

Possibly a low quality Fire or a low quality Cinnamon in one of the parents background. That is why I try to stay away from the lower quality and work with the better stuff, regardless of price. Doing that makes it easier to identify the offspring. =)
Which is going to be very important in the near future since were are combining many genes into 1 animal.
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Possibly a low quality Fire or a low quality Cinnamon in one of the parents background. That is why I try to stay away from the lower quality and work with the better stuff, regardless of price. Doing that makes it easier to identify the offspring. =)
Which is going to be very important in the near future since were are combining many genes into 1 animal.
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The deal with this combo is I don't know what female made the clutch...without going into a lot of detail everything is now tracked. Might be a choc, it will be bred back to a clutch mate this year, so we can see if it makes a super form..super choc pins should be cool, or super choc spinner.
Anthill, I agree with the quality breeding but everyone has their own ideology of a perfect morph.. I have cinni and fires, for sure this is neither of those morphs.
Belly shot of the male mystery provided above.

Dan