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I am looking to buy some new morphs for my collection and was wondering what morphs are better to have as a male or female? Please give me some advise on this.

The best morphs to have are Toffe, Candy, Coral Glow, and Banana. Good luck.

If I could, I would take down my last smart @$$ comment. The morphs that YOU need to get are the morphs that YOU and YOU alone, like the most!

People are making a financial KILLING on their champagne combos, but I never liked or wanted one just to make money with it. I didn't crave the champ until I saw the enchi champ.....NOW I want one, so get what YOU like!

I don't think that there is ANYONE who doesn't like the pastel, spider aka. Bumblebee.

I like the bumble bee also. But my question is what morph would you rather have as a female and morph would you want as a male.

If your just starting out I'd get normal girls and males of what ever morphs I wnated to work with. Make your own holdback co-dom and het girls.

If you don't want to go that route then i would say female recessives and single gene co-doms, and male dominant and combos.

It all depends what females and males you have now.A good base morph for a male my opinion is a fire.Even though its not a great morph in itself its what it does.Just my opinion Kim KSC Exotics

Hi,

I hope you find this useful!

When I first started, this was sort of my guideline... since I wanted EVERYTHING...

For codom... think morphs with a super form (pastel, enchi, etc)... I would get females. Why? Because you can then breed back the male offspring carrying the trait back to them and get supers. Example would be, getting a pastel female and breeding it to a spider to get a bumble bee. If the bumble bee is a male, you can breed it back to the mom to make killerbees.

For dom... think spider, pinstripe, etc... I would get males.

For recessives... think pied, ghost, etc... I would get females for the same reasons as the codom.

Here are other things to think about...

1. What do you have now?
2. What do you want project-wise?
3. What's your budget?
4. Newer morphs, such as Deserts, Toffee, etc, I would go with a male.
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Well right now I have alot of normal females ready to breed, 1 albino male, 1 pastel male and 1 bumble bee female.

You didn't quite ask a question there so I'm not sure what to say. If you want to know specifics, like exactly what morph would I get if I had your current collection... I'm going to need to know your budget and also what you're aiming for project-wise? Is space an issue? Do you care about quantity of morphs you can get or just quality?
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0.0.1 1983 boyfriend
1.0 2007 pug

Sell the albino male and pastel male and pick up a male super pastel breeder...
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Brian Hettinger, Owner
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480 Pythons
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Why would you sale them? Is it better to have a super pastel than a albino?

IMO, its hard to say that one morph is better than another. I love Albinos, but I'm only breeding my Albino male to females that are Het. Albino. If I were you, I'd get a double gene codom male. Maybe a Lemon Blast or Pastel Lesser, but it really depends on what you want to produce. What's your favorite combo? You said you like Bumblebees, the only reason I wouldn't suggest a male Bumblebee is that you have a female so IMO you'd be better off with something else. It also really depends on your budget. If you have a bigger budget, my recommendations might change.

Shelly

Thanks for all the help. But I guess what I am trying to find out is if you wanted a albino would you get a M or F. If you got a pastel would you get a M or F. Is it better to have a female of certain morphs and males of others. Like co-dom you rather have M or F same with resesive.

It depends on what you're trying to make. For recessives a good starting point is a visual male and a few het females. However, there are situations where visual female recessives are useful too. I'm planning on holding back a few albino females this season if I produce some because I want to work them in to other projects. I'll raise them up, while they are growing my albino male will be breeding some codom girls. By the time the albino females are big enough, I'll have (for example) male Mojaves and Cinnamons het albino to pair with them.

I'd say to start a collection out get a double codom male (because he can breed a few normal females and reproduce whatever he is), some normal females, a few single gene codom females (Pastel, Cinny, Mojave, ect), a visual recessive male, and some het females to go with him.

Unfortunately, there may not be an answer that is as definite as you are hoping for. Females take longer to get to maturity than males, so if you are buying babies you could spend your money on females first and get the males you want to pair with them a year or so later.

If ever there was a loaded question.

There are so many variables that are particular to every breeder that a good solid plan is going to be different for everybody, but a few guidelines I have learned over the years will apply to a broad range of breeders.

Get many Good females, and a couple awesome Males. Females can only pass on their gene set once a year or less, Males can pass on their gene set many times every year, it pays off huge down the road.

Hold back and keep less babies than you think. I have raised up so many snakes just to never breed them since I have better and better babies coming each year. This depends on your situation, but a collection can get out of hand in a hurry if you are not prepared to house a bunch of snakes.

I like to keep a selection of traits that have been proven to come out great, or will let me work toward a combination that I would like to see. We are all breeding for pattern and color at this time, so be sure to get patterns and colors that will keep you interested. More and more we are breeding for traits other than pattern and color, mostly to avoid bad traits such as head wobble and other detrimental traits, but as things progress it will be desirable to have snakes with outstanding personalities or other desirable interesting traits, I have a baby now that always wags its tail, I think it is a fear thing, but she is the only one and I am curious to see if this can be passed on as a trait.

When I look to add a new gene to my collection I always do it with an eye on what I have, how it will look with what I have, and also what the world wants.

I really enjoy having a couple dinker projects going as well. When I read about how many of these morphs have come to be known, it often starts with a most unremarkable snake. When something amazing shows up it makes one more comfortable suffering the grind of maintaining an army of hungry mouths and dirty cages.

Good Luck.

Mark