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What is going on??? Maybe the water??

rainbowsrus Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM

Another litter born last night, Apricot (Pearl) x Biwa (Pearl) for an expected litter of Pearls. This is the second litter Biwa sired this year and his first litter included the Zebra striped Pearls.

Apricot is a smaller female and during / after mating season she refused meals. Not uncommon but being on the small side to start with, not eating wasn't helping. I didn't get a clear set of mating data on her and originally thought her 04/10 shed was her POS with a due date of 08/05. She was hugging the heat but the due date came and went with no babies. Her next shed was 06/06 which would put her next due date at 10/01. That date comes and goes with nothing either, she's not looking big, even kind of odd proportions like she needed to eat. Over the weekend I offered her a small rat which she reluctantly took. Not with gusto like a hungry snake but still, she ate it. Then last night I notice a wiggler in the window, cool, she was gravid!!! And it was a little Pearl as I would have expected.

So I open the door and start looking around and as I would expect, it was a fairly small litter, only 8 babies with no slugs/stills.

But as I'm finding / pulling babies I see one that has some Zebra striping - cool, the babies are from Biwa after all.
BTW, neither BIWA nor Apricot have Zebra striping themselves. Aubergine on the other hand does.

Then after the Zebra striped one, a very wacky reduced dorsal pattern with lots of side striping. In total found two with that wacky aby patterning.

All eight babies...

Cropped litter pics of the two aby ones...

And some Zebra striping...

Last I checked there are no nuclear power plants nearby

Definitely the year of the stripe for me.

Also weird, they were mostly males, 7.1 to be exact
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (8)

rainbowsrus Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM

Snapped some additional pics of the two really odd babies.

AP-BI-1101 Male...





AP-BI-1102 Male...






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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

MoonlightBoas Oct 12, 2011 03:02 PM

Dave, I just don't know what to say. You've had some remarkable litters this year. You made more progress with Brazilian Rainbow Boa pattern morphs this year than... well, I've never seen BRB patterns this extreme. Hopefully this helps bring attention to how awesome Rainbow Boas are and increases their popularity.

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Paul D


www.MoonlightBoas.com

rainbowsrus Oct 12, 2011 04:42 PM

Thanks Paul, I'm pretty blown away by all this as well, basking in it absolutely but still in awe of what all is going on. And wondering how did it all happen in such a relatively short time. In the last 14 months I've had aby or stripe babies pop up in three different blood lines. Even hitting one is amazing let alone three.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Oct 12, 2011 06:47 PM

And stop drinking it myself!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

IkeLightner Oct 12, 2011 10:07 PM

Dave!!! STOP it already!!!! HAHA only kidding, but seriously, another HUGE congrats is in order for you here!!! And again, I can't wait to see some post shed pics.

You have your hands full, when are you going to run out of space and officially have no more room for holdbacks? ( I know this is probably not possible ) especially as you keep producing crazier and crazier stuff!!
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Ike Lightner

2.3 BRB Breeders (Dugo, Sultan, Roxy, Brazita, & Lucille)
1.0 BRB striped holdback (Nando) from Roxxy's litter of 25 on 8/23/10
1.2 100% het hypo BRB (Diego, Rasheena & Liddia)
0.1 Hypo BRB (Ireena)
Total collection of breeders and future breeders
4.6 Brazilian Rainbow Boas - Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria

rainbowsrus Oct 13, 2011 04:08 AM

Thanks Ike, how wild is that, not just one litter with odd babies but litters from three different sources each having odd striping and the striping is different from each line!!

At some point I'm gonna have to make cuts, I'm already at the point where holdbacks mean another older animal will have to go. That won't stop me from keeping holdbacks, just have to shift my priorities.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeff Clark Oct 12, 2011 11:44 PM

Dave,
....Are your pearl adults from Tom Davis bloodlines? This litter and your other mega striped one are a bit like the Walsh clown phase animals. Walsh was from Miami area and Tom Davis (also from Miami area) has been producing BRBs since the 80s. I am wondering if there is a Miami connection here?
Jeff

rainbowsrus Oct 13, 2011 04:19 AM

Jeff, yes, they were produced by Tom. Would make sense that the clown phase genes were in other animals in the vicinity. Before the internet I believe babies typically traveled much less distances when sold.

I have heard of random Hypo's popping up in litters here in the SF bay area. Relatively close to where the original hypos were produced by Mike Lockwood.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

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