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This little gem came from a Yb/Pastel x Yb breeding this year and has completed a few sheds now. I thought Id share to see what others opinions were and some insight as to if this is a Pastel or regular Ivory...

Father is from Seigels line of yellow bellies and showing some nice speckling with some unordinary color. Hope you enjoy them.

And a little closer

nice, looks good. does look alot like bens line of orange bellies/graphite's
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adam jeffery
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I would say that is not a Pastel Ivory. It appears to be just an Ivory, but definitely strange coloration, and probably inhereted the graphite appearance. I have hatched quite a few Pastel Ivorys and they never have the dirty head. The head is always very clean, but the eye stripes are still present.

Just my opinion.
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Tim and Monica Bailey
Bailey & Bailey Reptiles

In a way, I was leaning that way. I have been looking at many pics and physically of pastel ivories and ivories but come across so many ivories having washed out heads and lacking pastel. Most claim the clean heads are pastel ivories but from what Im seeing its all over the place. By chance is there a color shift in age some where in the pastel ivories?

I have a 1 year old proven breeder male and a 1 year old female. They both have turned almost solid white with eye stripes still present, and a very faint yellowish pattern on them. The Yellow seems to fade. However, the purplish color that borders the dorsal stripe (yellow) near the tail seems to remain somewhat.

I hope that helps.
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Tim and Monica Bailey
Bailey & Bailey Reptiles

That does appear to have something else going on but not a graphite or pastel ivory. I've seen some that looked identical labeled as ultra ivories. Here is a pic of my graphite ivory female at 600 grams. She gets more and more graphite color with every shed

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Josh & Krysty Hutto

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I have seen ultras too in which could be the case here. This picture is with a flash and kind of washes out flecks. She is only 120 grams or so and from what Ben has said was that as they grow its more prominent with graphites. I will try and capture this without a flash like you did in your picture.