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One of my Female Alterna

Hope you guys are doing well..

~ Mike Russo

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Killer hypo Mike!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Awesome Mike!

You can sure see the hypomelanism in that critter!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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She's gorgeous!

--Dennis

Beautiful snake Mike!

Maybe this has been asked before, but what is the history of hypomelanism in alternas?
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.17 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

>>Beautiful snake Mike!
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>>Maybe this has been asked before, but what is the history of hypomelanism in alternas?

As far as I know the hypos, aneries and ghosts came from Dan Johnson's Black Gap locale alterna..........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

That's correct. The hypo and anery genes both first occured in Dan Johnson's collection of Black Gap locality alterna. They can both be traced all the way back to the original wc hets. At the moment I forget who the actual collectors were but that information is easy to obtain by searching Dan's website. They have both been proven simple recessive.

The patternless gene was also first reproduced by Dan and it came from a wc patternless that was collected by Chris Sheldon at Black Gap. It appears this is not a simple recessive mutation, rather it's some sort of dominante or codominant type thing.

There have been other patterless-like lines of alterna created but as far as I know nobody has tested them to see if they are compatible.
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Is the patternless gene responsible for snakes like Johns (see Spots above)?
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.17 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

>>Is the patternless gene responsible for snakes like Johns (see Spots above)?

Those are Mike's.....But I think the patternless is a different gene than the Speckled.........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

"Is the patternless gene responsible for snakes like Johns (see Spots above)?"

You mean like Mike's? I don't think anybody knows whether the patternless is a single gene mutation or multi. The Patternless can look just like that but I don't know if Mike's are the same thing. There are the Dan Johnson patternless Black Gaps and there are the Dan Coffee line of abberrants which can look similar and they are non-locality. There is also regular speckling that occurs in naturally many localities, which can be selectively bred to produce more and more speckling each generation. Historically when one says "speckled alterna" they are just refering to any Grayband that has naturally occuring speckling in various amounts. I think that the Dan Johnson Black Gaps and the Dan Coffee abberrants are actual mutations. With the Dan Johnson's and possibly the Coffee's as well, the pattern can actually be completely erased on parts, turning solid gray on the dorsal surface, begining at the nuchal region and going down the length of the body. I don't think the natural speckleds do this. In my experience the natural speckled ones just get more and more filled in with speckling between the bands. The overall effect is very similar but the pattern doesn't actually erase. Mike's look like the Coffee line but that's just a guess on my part.

I am working with the Dan Johnson Black Gap patternless' but so far I have only produced one clutch. I will try to post some pics within the next few days.
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I would be more than glad to take that off of your hands Mike.(LOL) Very nice looking hypo she is awesome.