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Question regardinFlorida king genetics..

Bluerosy Oct 25, 2011 12:50 PM

Anerythristic /Axanthic homozygot. Has anyone seen it done?

I have never seen a double homo axanthic x anery. Just wondering if anyone has and if it is even possible to tell the difference?

I know that a guy named Bart had done the cross and sold the babies to someone in calif. But I never heard if those hets were raised up and produced.

Just wondering if a double homo would look much different. I giess there is no way to tell unless some has bred to double homos together and gotten a clutch.

Anyway, this would be a nice experiment. While I don't see many anerythristics for sale. I do see a lot of axanthics. So basicially anyone can get thse animals with minimal investment and try something new..

You never know. These Florida king genetics do surprise us sometimes.

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Replies (14)

CrimsonKing Oct 25, 2011 03:33 PM

....why haven't YOU, of all people, done this???

:Mark
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Bluerosy Oct 25, 2011 04:24 PM

....why haven't YOU, of all people, done this???

Hey yes Jassiter,I agree. I know I am brilliant and everything. But on this i just dropped the ball.
Also I thought that since both these genes are readily avaliable that someone else would have gone and done it. But i was wrong. Just as I was when the hypo came out and nobody bred it to a lavender until like 12-15 years later. That created the beautiful Hybino.

It is really the fault of all the lazy as$ people out there who don't use their brains even though they have the ability to make money. I wish i had a nickel for every post on here about how their snakes don't sell or the only sell enough to pay for mice. All the while they have the ingredients to do something interesting, new, lucrative and imaginative.
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GerardS Oct 25, 2011 06:09 PM

Why didn't you think about that? You could have been rich!!!!!


North Miami Dade County Floridana
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Bluerosy Oct 26, 2011 12:04 AM

chill out honey bunny
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GerardS Oct 26, 2011 06:36 AM

You suck at life and fishing. I'm totally cool! Just enjoying the show. You come on down and I will teach you.
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Gerard

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GONE FISHING!!!

CrimsonKing Oct 25, 2011 07:18 PM

or.... it could be that many do not give a damn if they make $$ at their hobby and keep snakes as pets....
I have never even tried to break even and I could not care less if I do.
Not everyone here is a commercial breeder, Rainer....
We appreciate being spoon fed all the info and seeing what others produce.
Is that any reason to be condescending? You share your knowledge and all but then tell us we're lazy and give the impression we don't deserve to be in the same "room" with you.
No matter, I like seeing everyone's photos and reading their questions and answers too...without the pix and info here, none would even know what a peanut butter or jelly is and would not covet them or buy them...
now post some pix!
:Mark
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Bluerosy Oct 25, 2011 10:40 PM

You took the bait.

but it was meant for Gerard.
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CrimsonKing Oct 26, 2011 04:44 AM

yep, ya gotta spread the bait out some...like chummin' for sharks
:0
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FR Oct 26, 2011 11:52 AM

Your comment is common and confusing. What is this dang fear of making money? and how and why does that make you commerical?

I think some folks think they are living in the mid fifites russia. Dude, making money allows you to support your animals much better. And allows you and your family to not be burdened by the high cost of your hobby. That is NOT commerical. That is, FREEDOM.

simply put, its the american way to make money, why is it feared by reptile keepers.

If kings did not make money, you would not have the products available to you or the species available to you, that you do now.

I think your confusion is, GETTING RICH, off snakes. Well unless your Mark Bell, or a few others, don't worry about that. You can make money to allow your interests of be fullfilled, in a way thats getting rich, only not with money. Cheers

CrimsonKing Oct 26, 2011 12:32 PM

..Capt. obvious.......
I am not confused about not caring (read depending) on my animals making me any money. I will sell what I want to if and when I want to. THAT is freedom too, right?

Since I was responding to Rainer, all that was pertinent to his post.

:Mark
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Aaron Oct 27, 2011 02:11 AM

Your comment is common and confusing. What is this dang fear of making money? and how and why does that make you commerical?

I think some folks think they are living in the mid fifites russia. Dude, making money allows you to support your animals much better. And allows you and your family to not be burdened by the high cost of your hobby. That is NOT commerical. That is, FREEDOM.

simply put, its the american way to make money, why is it feared by reptile keepers.

If kings did not make money, you would not have the products available to you or the species available to you, that you do now.

I think your confusion is, GETTING RICH, off snakes. Well unless your Mark Bell, or a few others, don't worry about that. You can make money to allow your interests of be fullfilled, in a way thats getting rich, only not with money. Cheers

That's just the way the world is. People assume the more money one makes the more likely ethics fall by the wayside. What's ironic is that money is the only thing politicians respect. Hence, making money is the only thing that can turn the tide of restrictions and prohibitions that are being placed on this hobby.
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a153fish Oct 27, 2011 09:20 AM

we ride a thin line between making money and and enjoying the hobby we love. If let the money factor influence me I would not be breding many of the snakes I chose to work with. I have plenty of locality Corn snakes that I caught myself. Right now they are a burden on the rest of my collection, because I have so many of them, they take food away from the rest of the collection, and let's face it, there's not much of a demand for locality Corns. However I really like them, and they are special to me, and hopefully some other people will enjoy them too. It's kinda like playing music. I would have never joined group playing music I didn't feel passionate about just for the money. If your primary goal is money, it sways your decisions on everything from what snakes to breed, to how you maintain them. I think the real success stories are people who follow their passion, and then find out, there's a ton of people who like the same thing. Sorry for thr rant, it just flowed, lol.
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varanid Oct 26, 2011 10:21 AM

*sniff* I wish mine would sell :P Oh well, next year and the year after when I should start having double homozygous should be better.
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daveb Oct 26, 2011 09:43 AM

hahahaha

well, when i was in pre-k, i took all my paint colors and mixed em up and i got this nasty purplish brown mess. it was only interesting in that i eventually learned it wasn't good for much and no one appreciated my mess except for me. what can i say, at least my kids are better artists than me.

i guess it would be interesting to see if they really are different genes or the same thing. will f1 generation hatchlings be true double hets and will they display any red or yellow? will there be axanthics/anery's in the f1? if the f1's are true double hets, how will you distinguish the double homozygot in f2? will it be a "super" ? you could strive towards a totally black patternless floridana , then cross it back into albinos, hypos or pb's that lack black and hope for something truly spectacular. i think it would take several pairs and several generations to figure it out. so i guess there is some hope for the project. too bad someone didn't do this back around 2001-2004, it would've saved a lot of arguing on this forum, hahahaha.

btw i did try lav x hypo many moons before it did appear. i got repeated duds/deformities and stopped trying. so sometimes these things are attempted but don't make it to daylight.

have a good day,
daveb
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