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Magee Patternless DAM. direction???

jrbannister0726 Nov 01, 2011 04:29 PM

needed a better title

So Im trying to decided what to do with the Dam of Brendan Magee's Patternless litter. I've had her for about 3-4 months now got her fat and ready for a male, but the question is what direction should I go in? I really don't know what i should breed her too and having a male big enough as she's a beast. Any advice or info would be greatly appreciated

Replies (6)

Warren_Booth Nov 01, 2011 05:33 PM

I will give you the exact same advice I gave Brendan. Bred it to something that will not distort the paper. E.g. and albino, anery, etc. Not a hypo, harlequin, or motley. The reason being, is that if this trait is an incomplete dominant, and the offspring phenotypically express some markers, then you want to be able to distinguish them from the rest of the litter (if she produces). If you have hypos, motleys, etc, then your likelihood of missing a potential het is pretty high.

Once you have one litter out of her, and she has a rest, then screw around with motleys, hypos, etc.

Just my two cents.

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth / Director USARK
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology

dan80woma Nov 01, 2011 06:27 PM

I wouldnt use the males that u have based upon Dr Booths explanation.

LarM Nov 01, 2011 08:15 PM

I was going to suggest the Harlequin, based on the people and place the Dam came from . . . . . . .

Although based on Dr. Booth's advise I have to agree because this
is the same basic advice I give anybody trying to prove
a possible new mutant trait.

First you need to prove that there is something special occurring,
the best way to do that is to Not muddy the waters.

I always suggest using a very nice Pastel type Colombian Boa.

Then look for possible markers or possibly similarities in the babies that are produced.

Then you breed a male baby back to the Original Dam in hopes of
lightening striking and your intended goal is produced.

In the mean time you wait for siblings to mature and breed brothers to sisters with
further hopes of hitting your intended goal.

This is how I most likely would approach the issue.

There are others with more experience and smarter than me who
might have better advice, but this is my advice
and the best I can do.

. . . Lar M
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jrbannister0726 Nov 01, 2011 08:17 PM

Yes that's a very good point. So I'm thinking a snow or a tpos.

Warren_Booth Nov 01, 2011 11:01 PM

If you have them, perfect.

I currently have a male Harlequin (pictured in John Berry's latest Designer morphs book) breeding a female Orange-tail Harlequin. Hopefully I will get some nice babies out of that pairing. I will keep you posted.

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth / Director USARK
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology

jrbannister0726 Nov 02, 2011 09:39 AM

I currently have my double dose hypo harlequin male on my arab female. And after a break and some yummy rats he'll have a date with my double dose hypo harlequin female. Those are the babies I have been looking forward to for awhile.

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