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I have to admit, bunnyhunny, that the point you made about plastic being unnatural, as well as “keeping snakes in boxes for your own amusement” is extremely valid.

Why it justifies hybrids…well, I don’t really see the connection…but…it’s valid as hell.

So…we debate that too. There are some people, even herp-loving people, who believe it’s inhumane to keep herps. In captivity void of all sensory stimulation. I admit I’ve thought hard about that.

So why do you folks get so defensive? You know we could present legitimate arguments and learn from one another if y’all didn’t get all huffy and start calling people stupid.

There is nothing stupid about either side of this debate.
You have your reasons for doing what you do,
We have reasons we don’t like it.

I’m a reasonable person.
But you just push people further in the opposite direction when you start with the personal attacks.

It occurs to me that we're a bunch of Indians (Native Americans) who refuse to cooperate with the "other" tribe. I hope the legislators don't kill our hobby before we consolidate! Shane

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." -Charles Darwin

"I am turned into a sort of machine for observing facts & grinding out conclusions"-Charles Darwin

"Man with all his noble qualities, with sympathy which feels for the most debased, with benevolence which extends not only to other men but to the humblest living creature, with his god-like intellect which has penetrated into the movements and constitution of the solar system- with all these exalted powers- Man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin." -Charles Darwin

"A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone" -Charles Darwin

"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an improved theory, is it then a science or faith?" -Charles Darwin

I am sorry. I am going to relax on this & start being the gentleman my mama raised. But remember, we are all misers of this land, & the animals are our whores. No matter how anyone wants to paint their picture. One way or another we are ALL pimps of biologic demise. From flushing your toilet to caging the beast, we all are our part, which in my view is natural to us.

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