I just got this killer pair in from Doug Mong. They are so cool I can't wait to see them start changing.
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Gerard
"Destruction of the empty spaces is my one and only crime"
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OBX
GerardS
Dec 06, 2011 11:32 AM
Replies (24)
joecop
Dec 06, 2011 12:41 PM
Congrats! Doug has some killer obx and those look to be speckling up already. I am sure they are going to be lookers!! Watch your fingers come feeding time 
Joe
GerardS
Dec 06, 2011 12:43 PM
Yeah, his adults are insane. They are going to be lookers for sure. I'm going to get another pair next year.
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Gerard
"I've lived a thousand times, I've found out what it means to be believed"
DMong
Dec 06, 2011 01:10 PM
Glad you like them Gerard........
Here is the parent breeder group you wanted to see.
~Doug
The abberant/striped male as a hatchling....mislabeled "female"..and forgot to edit it to male..LOL!
same aberrant male as he matured more.......
The mother of them as a young sub-adult
The darker male as a hatchling. He is the one in the very top photo breeding photo believe it or not..
The same darker male as he lightened up nicely and was a bit more mature
another old pic of the mother when she was very young
Can't wait to see how those guys develope for you as they mature!.
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
GerardS
Dec 06, 2011 01:26 PM
Yep, those things rock! L
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Gerard
"I've lived a thousand times, I've found out what it means to be believed"
rosspadilla
Dec 06, 2011 02:56 PM
Those are awesome!!! Are they about the same as the easterns when it comes to get them feeding on mice?
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DMong
Dec 06, 2011 04:32 PM
Well, yeah, many OBX can sometimes be pretty stubborn about getting to accept un-scented F/T pinks at first. Some will right from the start, while many others can take a very LONG time and alot of different scenting techniques such as cornsnake parts and/or heavy skink scenting until they finally figure it out. Some want NOTHING to do with cornsnake, skink or anole for a very long while either! Some may very well accept live pinks that wouldn't touch FT, but I don't know this because I don't breed any live here like I did when I had my own house in south Florida, and the closest place is a 20 mile round trip at $2 per pink and I don't care too much for the guy that runs the reptile dept there anyway, so I only go there as an extreme last resort if ever..LOL!
So in short, yes,!....some of these can be a real pain in the ARSE to initially get going, but when they DO, they are just like any other ravenous getula and will come shooting out wanting to grab anything in front of them. I just wish all of them were like that initially!...
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
a153fish
Dec 06, 2011 06:18 PM
My pair are eating live pinks after a short period. Can't wait to see them get big, ha ha!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra
My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com
DMong
Dec 06, 2011 06:50 PM
Yeah, those took to live pretty well after a fairly short stubborn period. They sure do take off once that happens..LOL!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
rosspadilla
Dec 06, 2011 06:42 PM
OK very interesting. Do you usually get them started before you sell them?
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DMong
Dec 06, 2011 07:14 PM
Yes,...ALWAYS!, unless a very experienced buyer agrees to take the resposibility on themselves, they are always kept here until they are feeding very dependably. Jorge agreed to do this as a matter of fact, and I knew he would definitely be able to get them going well and thriving. When a buyer isn't very experienced with getting stubborn hatchling snakes going, it can usually be way more than they can deal with, so I always keep them here until they voluntarily feed on F/T and are feeding very dependably so the people don't have any problems. I find it far better and responsible to the customers and the snakes to keep them here and work with them for as long as it takes to get them well-started, rather than the customers having problems after they recieve them. This would only get people unhappy and snakes that might die in the process, or have to be returned, etc.., so to me it is much easier to only ship them when I KNOW they will do well as soon as they get to their new homes. I have never had anyone tell me a snake (of any kind) they got from me wasn't eating......ever!..
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
rosspadilla
Dec 06, 2011 07:27 PM
That's good man and that's the way it should be done. I would buy from you in a heart beat, I just need to down size my collection. lol But those OBX kings are something special.
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DMong
Dec 06, 2011 08:34 PM
Yep, it sure is Ross, and thanks for the good word bro. Yeah, snakes certainly don't have to be multi-morph combinations or have dazzling colors to be very special as you said. The Louisiana Pinesnake would definitely be just one great example of a very subdued and VERY special type of snake too. As many of us know, breeders don't play a part with many special types of snakes out there in the world. Sure there are many types with loud colors and patterns that are certainly cool, but it isn't always a pre-requisite of what makes a snake "special".
Many of those Cal. kings you find and work with are good examples of that as well. Some of those isolated locality-specific hypermelanistics aren't exacly "eye-popping" either, but those are very unique and special. And that killer light "milk chocolate" colored hypo you personally found sure as heck fits the bill of being very special too. I would flip if I stumbled onto some stuff like that..LOL!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
rosspadilla
Dec 06, 2011 10:00 PM
As many of us know, breeders don't play a part with many special types of snakes out there in the world.
Ain't that the truth. lol I totally agree with you on all that.
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DISCERN
Dec 06, 2011 08:25 PM
Thanks a lot! Now I really want one! LOL!
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Genesis 1:1
DMong
Dec 06, 2011 08:42 PM
Dniles
Dec 07, 2011 07:47 PM
Doug
those are just great man. The first thing I am doing if I ever move out of NC is to buy 2 pairs of those from you. Those are killer.
DMong
Dec 07, 2011 09:17 PM
LOL!, thanks Dave!. Yes, I know for a fact the ONLY thing that has been keeping you from owning any up to this point is the state of North Carolina..LOL!...........but one day!..
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
rosspadilla
Dec 06, 2011 02:57 PM
Those are so cool. Keep us posted on them.
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gerards
Dec 06, 2011 03:38 PM
Thanks dude, I defiantly will.
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Gerard
"I've lived a thousand times, I've found out what it means to be believed"
a153fish
Dec 06, 2011 06:11 PM
Just one reason not to live in Georgia. Those look great Gerard! You can't go wrong with Dougs OBX.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra
My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com
GerardS
Dec 06, 2011 06:17 PM
Yes and yes! How is your pair doing?
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Gerard
"I've lived a thousand times, I've found out what it means to be believed"
a153fish
Dec 06, 2011 07:13 PM
Their eating on their own now so they should take off like rockets!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra
My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com
DISCERN
Dec 06, 2011 08:01 PM
Great snakes from a great guy!
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Genesis 1:1
GerardS
Dec 06, 2011 10:30 PM
No kidding, I wish I had bought another pair. Next year.
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Gerard
"I've lived a thousand times, I've found out what it means to be believed"
