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announced yesterday that it has enough weapon grade uranium now to build its first nuclear bomb.

N. Korea feels threatened by the U.S. and intends to build the bomb in order to have a sufficient defense.

Don't you think you have slaughtered the wrong pig? What will you do to prevent nuclear weapons in the hands of a lunatic like the president of N. Korea?

Again, well done: You beat an already agonized country of starving herdsmen and on your blind-eye side a high powered commy regime does exactly that what your president claimed to prevent when he sent his troops to Iraq.

Maybe you are on the wrong place at the wrong time? Could this be?

By the way, the rockets that were found several months ago on a vessel to Syria came from N. Korea....

Yep, you slaughtered the wrong pig.
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Only YOU can't seem to figure out the comparison of "apples to oranges" in Bush's war on terrorism. UBL and Saddam were "apples" while Korea is an "orange". Korea is not characteristic of the type of country that harbors the type of people who might execute a terrorist attack on the US, therefore, they are a separate entity when it comes to Bush's war on terror. So to answer your anti-American question, NO we have not "slaughtered the wrong pig". As a matter of fact, Bush has performed magnificantly so far. I know this bothers you, and your desire to see us fail will have to go unsatisfied.

Regarding the starving herdsmen in Iraq, how could a guy like you possibly care about them? You are the guy who wants to "build a high stone wall" around them! You have no credibility to even comment on those poor people. Bush's objective was to eliminate Saddam and that's exactly what he did. Those "starving herdsmen" will have a much better shot now that Saddam is gone. Thank you Bush!

By the way Stoeckl, what has your wonderful country done to prevent nuclear weapons in the hands of the lunatic in N. Korea? I'll answer that for you: NOTHING! Germany has done nothing constructive as usual. Well probably find out that Germany was selling uranium to the lunatic. After all, you and your wonderful country's leader didn't seem to have any problem with the lunatic that Bush just removed from Iraq.

Nice try Stoeckl, but, as per usual, you haven't made a single valid point. You have, however, yet again, exposed yourself as the biggest anti-American on this forum.

Devin P.

I can't believe what you wrote.
Does the leader of N.Korea utters threats against Germany or the U.S.?

Does the leader of N. Korea utters his intention to develope weapons of mass destruction (nuclear weapons!)? Yes or not?

Which nation is he up to threat with these weapons? Germany or the U.S? Have you ever heard him mention Germany?

Does he deliver missiles to countries in the Middle East (Jemen, not Syria as I wrote yesterday-sorry for that mistake). Yes or not?

If you want to defend yourself then N. Korea is the first choice. A country where people are starving to death because its leader spends every $ for the army instead of feeding his people.

N. Korea has 5.000 tons of biological and chemical weapons. It has smallpox virus and anthrax bacillus:

http://www.areion-online.de/koreanordc.html

And they feel threatened by your country. If I were you I would start to think about why there is measured with such different measures.
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

I responded to your offensive and insulting original post in the appropriate sarcastic manner. That post did nothing but ridicule the US for invading Iraq simply to beat up on "starviving herdsmen", as though the US is a mindless bully. You are not going to pretend now that you intended to make a serious point in that post, are you? You see Stoeckl, you have no credibility to act as though you are truely concerned about who we (Americans)should be prepared to defend ourselves against. You posted about N. Korea only in an (unsuccessful) attempt to make America look bad for eliminating the lunatic in Iraq. You have no concern for our well-being so please spare me the insulting "heads-up" that Americans need to be wary of N. Korea. what would we do if we didn't have you to point that obvious fact out? Thanks for nothing Stoeckl!

Devin P.

Hey Stoeckl, if you really are concerned for Americans, when it comes to defending ourselves, maybe you and some of your German comrades could rush right over to N. Korea and get started on building that high stone wall around them. we really appreciate your concern for us. Thanks Stoeckl!

Devin P.

... so please take care of N. Korea by your own.
Where did I talked about concern in my postings? You are mighty and you surley don't need any concern.

I just said you beat the sack when you should have beat the donkey (German saying).
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

"... so please take care of N. Korea by your own."

That's exactly what we've been doing for years.

"Where did I talked about concern in my postings? You are mighty and you surley don't need any concern."

You need to figure out when I'm being sarcastic. Of course I well aware that, not only do you have no concern for us, you outright root against us. And that's perfectly fine Stoeckl, we don't want you on our side.

"I just said you beat the sack when you should have beat the donkey (German saying)."

Your lack of understanding of the "sack" is as lacking as your understanding of the "donkey". Maybe you should stick to discussions about boas.

You are the biggest anti-American here, and only a fool would expect the Americans that you've insulted here to tolerate your anti-American garbage.

Devin P.

You have it all backwards, as usual. The lunatic from N. Korea IS THE THREAT. He is not after nuclear weapons because he feels threatened by Bush. He's a lunatic, like you said, and he is power hungry, like Hiltler was. Maybe he wants to invade Germany! It would be funny to watch the Germans beg Bush to save their little ungrateful hides, if he did. Again, Stoeckl, the lunatic from N. Korea is the threat. Try to get it right.

Devin P.

Lets just say for argument sake (no punn intended) that some of us outside the USA understand your views on getting rid of some of the ugly people of the world, but WE also get affected when you make these big decisions, our countries are also at a loss especially at the time of the first Iraqe war, the UK went right into a recession for a couple of years, there was no work anywhere, families were in trouble and many of the UK citizens lost alot of their livelyhoods. Maybe thats why we are against some of your decisions.

So please try and understand that the USA does affect alot of other countries in the world. Yes maybe you get rid of a threat to us, but there doesn't seem to much thinking or caring involved about how you will affect us. Can you see why we might me against your actions sometimes.

steve

You will eventually have NO economy if someone doesn't remove "some of the ugly people in the world". You have no sense of priority and you take a lot for granted. There are soldiers who have lost their lives in the process of removing "some of the ugly people in the world", and I'm sure that their surviving relatives don't take the results of their efforts for granted the way you do. The cost of war is extremely high, financially speaking, also. Americans would much rather spend our tax dollars on other things. There is an awfully high price that has, and is, being paid so that you can at least complain about your crappy little economy today.

In regards to your economy, you say that BECAUSE OF AMERICA, "the livelihoods of UK citizens were lost, there was no work anywhere, the UK went right into a recession, and families were in trouble". WE"LL EXCUSE US FOR MAKING THE WORLD A SAFER PLACE! It may be perfectly acceptable to you that an evil dictator invade another country, but thankfully Bush Sr. doesn't agree with people like you. You need to get your priorities in order Steve.

Finally, don't forget that the UK is a Socialist country. Rather than blaming Americans for your own economic problems, why don't you place the blame on your own flawed system of government. It's not rocket science. While your country is still EXPERIMENTING with different variations of the same social programs, our Capitalistic system has been thriving for over 200 years. The brightest and most productive individuals who grow up under a Socialist government often move to America to get away from those who want to sink their "meat-hooks" into someone else's productive efforts. Socialism breeds parasites, and eventually the paracites choke off every shred of incentive. rather than loathing Americans, as you do, why don't you take your blinders off, put your envy aside, stop criticizing us, and recognize that we have something worth emulating?

Devin P.

You DID NOT make the world a safer place! On the contrary! You put fuel into the machines of the islamic terrorism. As a matter of fact you help to create new supporters of terrorism.

Speaking of the economy: This war costs the U.S. tax payer a lot of money but it is also big business for certain companies. In my opinion this was one of the reasons of the war on Iraq.

You accused me to be anti - american. If anti-american means to critizise wrong wars then I am anti american.

If it would be your private pleasure then OK. But with this you make the world a more dangerous place and not vice versa. You will live to see the day when you realize that I was right.

But as far as I know your mentality you will never admit it. You are still waiting for the US inspectors to find the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Do you know what this useless search costs the tax payers?
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

1) "you helped to create new supporters of terrorism".

Name them.

2) "The war is big business for certain companies".

Name them

3) "You make the world a more dangerous place".

How?

4) "Do you want to know what this useless search costs the taxpayers"?

I don't care! I'll gladly pay more taxes as a result of a war that frees a nation from the clutches of someone who inflicts that much pain physically and emotionally on a nation. I can't imagine what it must feel like to say your last goodbye to a loved one as they struggle to gurgle their last goodbye as a result of mustard gas and nerve toxins. And how do you know for sure that it's useless? How do you know for sure that those weapons don't exist? Do you know how easy it is for them to transport and hide WMD? Of course you do, but you'll never admit it. Any weapons could have easily been moved to a neighboring country in anticipation of our troops arrival. In any case, perhaps you could take a stab at the first three questions above.

Your fishing for insults. Your brain is bogged down with conspiracy theories and propoganda. You are not capable of thinking straight. Remember that you are the guy who thinks that our own government masterminded the 9/11 attack on our own people. You can't possibly be taken serious.

Yes Stoeckl, we did make the world a safer place. You continue to hint of something ominous that is going to happen, yet you have no facts as usual.

We, on the other hand, know that terrorists are much less of a threat to us when they are either blown to pieces of on the run. Thank you Bush.

Stoeckl, not only are you anti-American, you are the biggest anti-American on this forum.

Devin P.

PS Do you think that Bush himself rolled up his sleeves to plant some of the explosives that you say brought the Twin Towers down?

There it is again, don't you ever get tired of writing anti Amercan, is that whats on your mind all day.

steve

You have nothing of substance to say. You and Stoeckl have done nothing more than insult Americans. You get your feelings hurt when we respond to your garbage in the appropriate manner. The only thing that you seem to be able to do is call us rude, and complain about being labeled as an anti-American, which you are.

Devin P.

Yeah, the usual response again, you are simply unable to hold a normal conversation.

steve

Devin

I tried to make you reallize that the USA affects other countries to, and I get the typical rude and angry response, if anyone is blind I say it is YOU. And I see by your statement that you think the UK has a crappy little economy, well thats great, you win again, yes America is the greatest and the biggest and has the most money BUT i tell you, you will NEVER have the respect of other countries and people if you carry on the way you are, the way of thinking, and yes I know you dont need anyone else to help you, great. If this is so then why on earth are you soo reluctant to talk normally instead of giving the HE MAN attitide all the time, this to me means that you are truely insecure with yourself and with your country, you cannot converse in a normal fashion, and I guess the UK citizens mean nothing to you even though they are helping you and are on your side, this is the respect that you give to a country thats government is with you. Just the same old nonsence, anger, bitterness and the HE MAN mentality. you cannot seem to get beyond that.

steve

When you are confronted with the cold hard reality you resort to the only response you seem to be capable of: accusations of rudeness. You obviously are a very sensitive guy and you get your feelings hurt very easily. If being told that Americans are not responsible for the UK's crappy economy hurts your feelings, then too bad. You are the insolent one here making the outrageous accusations, you should be man enough to take the criticism that naturally follows. Now please try to respond with something of substance, not your usual anti-American spiel about how we have no manners.

Devin P.

Man, you do suprise me with your childish messages, I dont get hurt by any of your statements at all. BUT I can clearly see that because you are soo insecure in yourself that it is hurting you immensley, and I wish you would say something of substence to sometimes, but you are unable to do that.

You are amazing

steve

N. Korea says it's true that they have enough uranium to build a nuclear bomb, THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha!!!! You can only hope Stoeckl!

Devin P.

We beat an evil regime while "saving" an "agonized country". Get it right Stoeckl. I love how you become melodramatic in order to embellish your compositions to suit your agenda. Perhaps you could share with us where you got your information and also your thoughts about the leader and how he compares to Saddam. Does he too torture, rape, gas and execute his own people? Since you say we slaughtered the wrong pig, you must condone those actions. Lastly, is N. Korea known to be a terrorist nation? By the way, when you e-mail Sobek today to rally his support for that ridiculous post, please let him know that we've been worried about him since he disappeared without responding to the posts below in the thread started by Tommyboy. I hope Fred is okay!

Number one or number two! Which is the lesser of two evils. Bush fibbing or Saddam's atrocities.

Fred, whoops I meean "sobec"? Why would he run and hide from such simple questions?

Devin P.