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Ultra Granite L. m. mexicana (MEX MEX)

Dark Phase Hypoerythristic Mex Mex (Black Phase Sire X Hypo-E Dam) - Only one in existence...

White Leonis (Nuevo Leon King) - L. m. thayeri

Hypomelanistic California King

Chocolate Tiger California King (Banded Hypermelanistic)

Chocolate Banana California King (Hypermelanistic Banana)

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John Lassiter
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Sweet snakes John! Love the White Leonis and that Chocolate Tiger Cal King is a kiiler. So is the Choclate Banana Cal King.

Scott

>>Sweet snakes John! Love the White Leonis and that Chocolate Tiger Cal King is a kiiler. So is the Choclate Banana Cal King.
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>>Scott
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John Lassiter
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The Ultra Granite and White Leonis are my favorites but they are are very unique and beautiful, John!
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>>The Ultra Granite and White Leonis are my favorites but they are are very unique and beautiful, John!
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>>King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
>> Jorge Sierra
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>>My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com
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John Lassiter
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That last one is wicked looking. I wouldn't mind a pair of those.
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Gerard

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GONE FISHING!!!

They are VERY affordable snakes now.......I got a pair of them from Don Shores....they should be able to breed in 2013.....
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John Lassiter
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Very nice! My faves are the white Leonis and hypo cal king.
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Genesis 1:1

>>Very nice! My faves are the white Leonis and hypo cal king.

Thanks Billy.....It seems everyone likes that white leonis......Robert Hansen produced a whole clutch of them....I was lucky to get this one from him.......

And I am diggin the looks of the hypo cal king......I have another that is getting light too but not as nicely as that one pictured.....
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John Lassiter
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Yeah man...that hypo cal king is something else!
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Genesis 1:1

Very nice animals John!....

I especially dig the hypermelanistic "tiger" there.

Do you think/expect the dark hypo-E will lighten in the blotches as it matures more?

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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>>Very nice animals John!....
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>>I especially dig the hypermelanistic "tiger" there.
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>>Do you think/expect the dark hypo-E will lighten in the blotches as it matures more?

Definitely......
I already raised a pair of them.... Their saddles are totally pink.....
This one is very similar in coloration to his uncle at his age.... And that adult male is one of the nicest Hypoerythristics that I've seen..... So glad I have him....
What I'm really curious about is how dark his ground color will get as his father has an almost solid black ground color.....

If this one pictured ends up black and pink then it was easier to get there than I initially thought...... I do think the project will need refining though.... Plus it's time to get the hypo-e gene on an ultra granite..... I will be breeding a young pair this year that have a granite and a black parent....if they throw a black granite it will be time to breed the black hypo-e to it.... Fingers crossed....

Then there's the striping gene to work on, refine and cross into the hypo-es and blacks.....
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John Lassiter
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Cool, I thought I remembered that they tended to lighten up in the saddles as they matured and some darken up very substantially in the groundcolor as well.

Some nice projects there.......

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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>>Cool, I thought I remembered that they tended to lighten up in the saddles as they matured and some darken up very substantially in the groundcolor as well.
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>>Some nice projects there.......

Thanks Doug....
Here are some comparison pics to help illustrate most of it.....

The Mother (top of pic) to the young male in the initial post with her sibling brother (bottom of pic)...at about the same age as the young male:

The Mother now:

The Mother's sibling Brother now:

The Father to the young male in the initial post:

And some "striping"

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John Lassiter
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Yeah, quite a difference from the more cherry-red coloration their saddles are typically noted for being.

Cool comparison shots there to visualize it with. Until they mature more, it is sort of similar to some of the hypo-E Sinaloans to see how different they really are compared to a normal unless there is a normal colored specimen next to it to visually comapare it with. You know how some shots are sort of deceiving to the eye sometimes. Although the mex-mex are certainly more obvious.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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>>Yeah, quite a difference from the more cherry-red coloration their saddles are typically noted for being.

Actually a normal (classic) hatchling mex mex has maroon saddles that lighten to cherry red......The females don't get as bright and clean......Slight dimorphism like high saddles = females too....

These Hypo-Es hatch with a cherry red that lightens to pink and I've seen the saddles on one hypo-e female (grandmother to my pair) lighten to gray/white.....ANERY?.........
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John Lassiter
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Yeah, I dig what you are saying..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Good to see that the white leonis is still white!

>>Good to see that the white leonis is still white!

Me too...still bright, clean white!
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John Lassiter
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as always those granites are KILLER. They're all awesome but that one...*whistles*.
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>>as always those granites are KILLER. They're all awesome but that one...*whistles*.

Thanks.....I like those Ultra Granites alot too.....I can't wait to see some more hatch this year.....
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John Lassiter
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cool pics
what line is the hypo calking?
it looks... odd err special... moreso than hypo...
keeper huh?
have a mate for it?
i like it the most

,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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>>cool pics
>>what line is the hypo calking?
>>it looks... odd err special... moreso than hypo...
>>keeper huh?
>>have a mate for it?
>>i like it the most

I bought a pair from Don Shores....They are black and white as hatchlings then they lighten to almost gray and white.........

I think the "line" is from The Gourmet Rodent.......Or Jeff Seararo (sp?).........
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John Lassiter
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As always, Frickin' Show Off!!!! lmao, Great animals and pics John! Hope you and your family survived the holiday season.
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Jimmy Tintle

>>As always, Frickin' Show Off!!!! lmao, Great animals and pics John! Hope you and your family survived the holiday season.

Hey....if you got it show it off......lol
Yea, we barely made it through the holidays....heck, its even hit the freezing mark 4 times this winter.... 27F once......
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John Lassiter
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Thanks for the pics!
i would take the mexmex home and the cool tiger cali!
Now you need some killer floridanas next...flamed are damned nice and some meansis are only fascinating...

come on...more pics!
Can you post some granite mexmex pics from your last season?

>>Thanks for the pics!
>>i would take the mexmex home and the cool tiger cali!
>>Now you need some killer floridanas next...flamed are damned nice and some meansis are only fascinating...
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>>come on...more pics!
>>Can you post some granite mexmex pics from your last season?

Thanks Michael.....
I used to breed floridana and a few go ini years ago.......getting them again would be like taking a step backwards......lol

I will find some pics of all the granite........
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John Lassiter
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Really Really like ultra granite and white leonis. Beautiful animals John...Dave.

>>Really Really like ultra granite and white leonis. Beautiful animals John...Dave.
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John Lassiter
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