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Ok, this is wat I got. A male Lipstick Albino Paradox Motley xa possible super moonglow. I know ill get different results if she proves this out and not. I understand the punnett square to a certain extent. But its a lil much for me with all the traits from my male motley. If anyone can give me the final "perfect scenario" results with these two, one with her being a super, and one with her not, and then possibly point me to a website that I can try and understand it all a lil better, thanks in advance,

this one isn't really all that complicated once you strip away all the distracting titles and break it into it's individual parts (motley, albino, hypo and anery).

the lipstick paradox albino motley is really simply an albino motley, and the possible super moonglow is really just a moonglow (for simplicity's sake).

since the motley is an albino and the moonglow is also an albino, there are no "wildtype" genes on that locus, therefore there will be no non-albinos. it's like breeding an albino to another albino. you get all albinos.

now figure in the motley part. since it's an incomplete dominant trait, you'll get roughly half a litter of motleys.

add those two together and you get a litter of albinos and albino motleys.

now factor in the hypo mutation. if the moonglow proves NOT to be super, then roughly half of the albinos will also be hypos, making roughly half the litter sunglows. some of them will be motleys, others won't.

if the moonglow IS super, then ALL of the babies will get the hypo trait, making them ALL sunglows. again, about half will be motley.

now figure in the anery part of the moonglow. since the albino motley has no anery gene, you won't get any anery offspring, but they all will be het anery.

the paradox part may or may not prove genetic (most don't). you may get a paradox or two, maybe not.

the lipstick part will really only apply if the babies inherit the lipstick "look". some will, others won't. how MANY depends on how intense the "look" is in the lipstick albino motley, and how much the moonglow mutes it (if it is a low contrast albino - and it likely is - it will strip away more of the lipstick influence than another high-contrast albino would have).

Thank you, it does make more sense that way, I was just trying to use the punnett square, that's probably wat was confusing me so much, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that when I breed them I get a few lipsticks, and it'd be pretty cool for some paradox, the moonglow is from the Kahl strain, bought from Russo Reptiles, the motley is beautiful and still as bright as the day I bought him from Shane Kinney, they are both about a yr and a half, I know I have another yr 1/2 to two before they are even ready to breed, but I'm trying to get everything prepared and build the racks and such, to be ready, can't wait, I'm excited,