I have just recently gotten into "pits",and was wondering if anyone else had produced any combos with the golden hypo?
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Golden hypo/Whitesided...
Rainshadow
Jan 20, 2012 08:50 AM
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pyromaniac
Jan 20, 2012 09:41 AM
Do you mean like morphs?
Patternless Hypo Sunglow het for whiteside/albino/axanthic/
I recently bought this one.
Kingsvill Red X Stillwater Hypos; female on right is hypo. My own clutch.
Do you have any pics of your pits?
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.
Rainshadow
Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM
No pics of mine yet,I may try to snap a few later today. I picked up the whitesided hypo from Jonel a few moths ago,and I'm facinated by the fact that it looks albinistic,(despite the fact that amelanism is not present in it's genetic make up.)Your snakes are gorgeous! (btw,drooling now!) is the sunglow "golden hypo"?
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pyromaniac
Jan 21, 2012 09:57 AM
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I meant to say I will never keep anything with the Stillwater Hypo gene again.
Its just my opinion and I know some others that feel the same way.
I have owned 3 different pairs of Stillwater Hypos and a group of Red X Stillwater Hypos.
The first pair I owned looked healthy as hatchlings. But as they aged, they devolved kinks and knotted spines. One of them slept on its back. The first time seen that I thought it was dead but when I went to grab it, sprung to life. The other sibling crawled backwards instead of forward.
The second pair I had just up and died about the one year mark. plus they crawled funny on occasion. They just acted a little off.
The 3rd pair seemed totally fine. But every time I got eggs, they would go full term and die in the egg. That happen 2 years in a row.
I have heard similar thing from other people. I get emails from people asking the same questions. The most often question. Do you know why my Stillwater Hypo would just died randomly when all seem well.
I didn't see as much problems with my Kingsville X Stillwater crosses early on. Probably because they where outcrossed. But I did see little signs with each generations passed. 3rd generations deformity's and full term non hatching.
There was a reason people started calling them Golden Hypos. Because they recognized the weakness of the gene. So they outcrossed to make them stronger, plus they where no longer Locality animals.
I think they are beautiful animals. This is just my opinion and experiences. I sure there are people out there that have different opinions and experiences. by Jason Nelson
Jason has been breeding pits for decades, and I value his input. So far so good with mine, but with his experience in mind I do plan to breed away from Stillwater.
forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1696049,1696049
Origin of Stillwater Hypo
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.
Rainshadow
Jan 21, 2012 11:06 PM
Thanks for posting that! I had no idea that any of those situations were associated with these animals!!! It's really too bad because from what I have seen,they blow all the other mutations away in terms of their appearence. I'm wondering if similar problems have been seen in "rusty" Sonorans? That seems to be another beautiful mutation that some seem eager to get rid of,yet no one seems willing to say much about their experiences with keeping/breeding etc...thanks for the info Bob!!!
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