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I came home last night to my last clutch in the incubator piping. It was a double het albino pied X double het albino pied. With six brown heads poking out I was heartbroken.

I couldn’t believe I missed the elusive 1/16 albino pied again. And this time I didn’t even get any pied pos het albinos or albino’s pos het pied. But then this one head looked a little different to me. It had a yellowish white spot on the center of its head.

Well with a few snips I could clearly see this was no normal snake. It was the coolest looking thing I ever seen. It was an albino pied but with normal sections of pied. Check out the pic and tell me what you guys think. Paul at Steel City Exotics.

Nice...cant wait to see it all the way out.
Travis
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LAIR OF DRAGONS

Congrats - from what I can see its going to be a really nice looking ball.
I think you hit on odds that are much lower than 1 in 16.
What are the odds that a 1 in 16 would also be paradox?

I have no idea. Now all I can do is hope its a male

That is going to be an amazing looking snake. Please make sure to remember to post pics once it is out. I think there is still plenty we can't see while it is still in the egg.
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Tim and Monica Bailey
Bailey & Bailey Reptiles

That is incredible. I bet it's killing you waiting for that one to come out of the egg. Congrats!

Matt Ozsvath
Lizards of Oz
www.lizardsofoz.com

Wow, that is crazy looking! Are you sure it's not twins? Be sure to post some pics when it's out!
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-Jeff
http://jefflumanreptiles.com

Yor right Tim, it is killing me lol. Jeff, I only have one snake in there. You can see where the reg pied rolls right into the albino section. It looks really cool. I will post pics as soon as he or she is out. Paul

It looks like a albino/pied transplant, lol. IMHO, I would prefer 2 seperate genes showing in one snake rather than in combination. Its like a cyborg

Incredible!!! That is just awesome!
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Dave Green
www.davegreenreptiles.com

That is so exciting I can't wait to see pics when it is out of the egg. We are working on albino pieds this season to.
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1.0 pied
1.1 Possible het pied
1.0 het albino
0.1 het albino possible het pied
1.1 albino
1.0 spider
0.1 pastel
1.0 mojave
0.1 normal
0.1 fire?
1.1 leopard gecko
1.2 bearded dragon
0.0.1 sulcata tortoise
0.1 black lab
1.0 cat
0.1 quarter horse
2.1 children
0.1 wife (15 years)
fish

Awesome stuff Paul! Congrats!
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Brandon Osborne Reptiles

cant wait to see that fully out of the egg - congrats paul!

Well I just checked on the little guy and its still not out yet but I took a few pics so you can see what I have here. I love the way right behind the head is albino and then it goes back into pied. I think by tomorrow night it should be all the way out and I will be able to post pics. But in the meantime enjoy. Paul Wyble at Steel City Exotics

That is amazing, huge congrats!!!
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-Jeff
http://jefflumanreptiles.com

Paul
That is so cool! The only bad thing is that you won't have anything to look forward to anymore because you'll never produce a cooler looking snake then that.

Matt Ozsvath
Lizards of Oz
www.lizardsofoz.com

Yea...but wont it be fun for him to try....
Travis
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LAIR OF DRAGONS

That has to be the most beautiful snake that i have ever seen!!! congrats and post pics when he/she's out!!!

Wow, that is simply amazing!! Congrats!!! I love the brightness of the orange on him!!

Freaking amazing!
I'm guessing genetics couldn't make up its mind whether to switch to albino/pied, albino or pied. Kinda just mixed it all in and said, "Here ya go".

Congrats!

Well it is all the way out and it is in fact a boy. Let me know what you guys think of him. Paul Wyble at Steel City Exotics

Paul, he is even more amazing out of the egg! Big congrats!
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Alice Cobb
Florida Reptile Room

@ Alice, thank you. I cant stop opening the incubator and looking at him lol.

Wow...just amazing...and its a boy...
Travis
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LAIR OF DRAGONS

BTW....thanks for the new desktop pic...the mystic potion was getting old....lol
Travis
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LAIR OF DRAGONS

wow paul thats sweet, you should bring him to a show some time so i can see him in person.

To bad about the defective paint job. I'll take him off your hands if you just want to get rid of him. Kidding of course. He is amazing! Talk about a one in a million... Some guys have all the luck.

Matt Ozsvath
Lizards of Oz
www.lizardsofoz.com

That is a very confused snake! Gorgeous!

Very cool animal... congrats!

How do paradox animals breed, as a het or homozygous? In other words, if you breed this guy to a female albino pied, would you get all albino pieds (like you would if he was not a paradox), or would you have some het animals in there as well?

@ Marcial,
Well I believe its a albino pied so if you bred it to an albino female it would produce all albinos 100% het pied. The paradox part does not alter the genetics at all, its just a really cool piece of eye candy. Unless this one proves to be genetic. Time will tell on that though. Paul

That is an incredible snake. You've got to be a proud papa! Tom Harbin
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Tom Harbin
www.threptiles.com

very sweet snake...male...cool...

but

what is he...?

is it an amel pied paradox? or is it a pied het amel paradox?...

could be pied showing it's "het" markers freakishly?...

...hopefully for you...and all others...this is a freak amel pied......and when bred to another amel pied...you get all amel pieds....and a few freaks to boot....!

good luck...crossed fingers brother....!

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........JY

Paul,

Congratulations on producing such a beautiful animal.

You must be very proud.

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

I just want to thank all of you guys for the kind words. Not sure yet what I am going to do with him but I will keep you guys posted on how he is doing. I hope everyone has a great season this year and I'm sure we are going to see more cool things like this pop up from time to time. Paul Wyble at Steel City Exotics.

That is truly one of the most beautiful snakes ive ever seen! I wonder what the odds are to produce such a thing? Congrats on that jackpot! If only we could nail down the makeup of the paradox!

I give!!!!!!!!!! I thought I had the genetics thing figured out.Wow, that is too cool.

Well Paul, I love my Albino Pied.....but darn brother he rockssss. Now keep me posted on the babies i sent you...should be sweet. Pat Riverside Reptile Breeders
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RIVERSIDE REPTILE BREEDERS

Freakin' awesome !!!!
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