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Hello,
I used to keep plain old red-tail boas around 20 years ago when I lived at home with Mom & Dad. I don't think there were any known morphs that long ago or at least I wasn't aware of any. We were stoked to have really nice pink/peach background colored boas from the East Bay Vivarium with vibrant red tails. Anyways, I wanted to work with a couple boas again and took the first step by getting a male Sharp Sunglow Motley from my friend Alex at Boa Republic a couple weeks ago.

I'm not wanting to get in over my head too soon. I want to get the best female for that male and was thinking that might be a Boa Woman Caramel. What are your thoughts? I think I can make Paradigms with that pairing? What else should I expect from that breeding outcome? Some of the morphs like hypo being codom is new to me as hypo is simple recessive in ball pythons. Would there be a better choice to create something not so common?

Looking forward to hearing from the community! Keep it friendly please.
Thanks,
Charlton

I'd suggest with a sharp Sunglow motley picking up a awesome patterned jungle het bwc or jungle bwc another codom pattern morph either het for bwc or visual.

Alex produced some killer boas in that litter!
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Brandon Nixon

Forgot to mention one of the prodigy line animals Jeff produced this year would also go well with that animal!
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Brandon Nixon

I took a look at Jeff's ad for Prodigys and unless I'm missing something they don't do anything special with the Sharp line like the BWC's do. If I'm not mistaken, since the Prodigy is also a recessive gene, I would be producing double hets including hypos and motleys double het for Sharp albino and Prodigy.

The prodigy is when breed to a sharp produces what Jeff named Paradise.It work the same as BWC
http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/archives/640-Introducing-the-Paradise-Boa.html

>>The prodigy is when breed to a sharp produces what Jeff named Paradise.It work the same as BWC
>>http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/archives/640-Introducing-the-Paradise-Boa.html

thanks for the link, I hadn't seen the update and that the paradise was produced!

Do you know if a prodigy was bred to a BWC to confirm they are not the same mutation?
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

April to answer your question the Paradise Boa or rather the Prodigy Boas.

They have not bee bred with a BWC and Jeff from my understanding will not be doing that breeding.

So it will be left to someone else, if someone else even wants go that direction . . . I don't know.

After seeing prodigy and Paradise in person and I've also seen several BWC and Paradigm Boas.

Visually speaking something appears very different with the Prodigy and Paradise Boas.

Several of the Paradise Boas I looked at were extremely bright crazy kind of cartoon colored Boas.

Even the less brightly colored Paradise Boas seemed to be quite different.

It's interesting to say the least.

. . . Lar M
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Thank you Larry!

>>It's interesting to say the least.

that's for sure, it's amazing how far boa morphs have come in the last 15 years

take care
-April
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

I believe they are the same just different lines. The fact both BWC and Prodigy are compatable with the Sharp gene says quite a bit in my mind.

The prodigys are by far more refined than most BWC animals. I believe the BWC produced by Dan Brown earlier this year I am now fortunant enough to have looks closer to a Prodigy than a BWC simply because it is more clean and it changes the look of the animal.

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Brandon Nixon

Thanks for the link!

I WOULD SUGGEST A NICE PARAGLOW JUNGLE

Hi Brandon. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm still looking for a little clarification on the Sharp gene interacting with the BWC. Is it true that Paradigms are produced and that other stuff in that litter would at least be het for Sharp albino? What happens when you take one of those Paradigms and breed it back to the Sharp Sunglow Motley?

>>Hi Brandon. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm still looking for a little clarification on the Sharp gene interacting with the BWC. Is it true that Paradigms are produced and that other stuff in that litter would at least be het for Sharp albino? What happens when you take one of those Paradigms and breed it back to the Sharp Sunglow Motley?

Sharp x BWC = full litter of Paradigms.

If you bred a Paradigm to Sharp Sunglow Motley

You would get Motleys and Hypos...the mix colorwise would be Paradigm Motleys, Sharp Albino Motleys, and Motleys het Sharp, sale goes for the Hypos.
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Brandon Nixon

Thank you Brandon this is very helpful information!

Shoot for getting a Motley Sharp Sunglow Het. Anery and breed it to a Hypo ParaHET that's also het anery and BAM get some sweet Artic and Artic GLOWS 8)

Jake

Hi Jake. Thanks for the response, but I'm not looking to start another project until I pair up the male I already have.

Charlton, sorry for my post, please ignore. Take care, Andrew

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Charlton, If you want to produce the most beautiful boas going, invest in the Aztec gene. Some photos to illustrate my point.

2011 Orange-tail Sharp Sunglow Aztec

Mom and Dad

2011 Orange-tail Paraglow Aztec

Mom and Dad

Those are pretty nice Andrew! Is the Aztec gene recessive or codom?

It's a Co-dom just like the Motley but much much better. Andrew

Thank you for getting back to me Andrew. Is there a super form of the Aztec gene and if so does it have negative issues like Super Motleys can have? I love pattern mutations so I might have to look around for an Aztec het Sharp.

Charlton, There is a super form of the Aztec, actually two different phenotypes of Super Aztec. Unfortunately both types of Super Aztecs have a defect but believe with enough out crossing the defect will stop happening. Something else, a Super Aztec male produced two litters in 2010 which the Super Motley has never accomplished. Some photos of the Super Aztecs.

Super Aztec and Patternless Super Aztec

Super Aztec and Patternless Super Aztec as young adults