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I tried a search but couldn't find a thing on them.... does anyone remember about four or five years ago a picture surfacing of a burgandy colored honduran and offspring for sale from that snake? Not sure if the pic was retouched, but it was a good looking snake. Any ideas? Thanks snakebuz

Looked like this:

Try the link below... believe it's what you want.

Gerry
Link

I'll try it when I get home this evening Gerry, the work comp won't let me go there, LOL
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This is an unbelievable snake. I'm curious if the genetics were ever proven on this snake.

There was a "poss het for burgandy" up for sale in the fauna classifieds as late as august of last year, And I had heard of "hets", just not sure if the strain proved out. I tried contacting the seller, but have recieved no answer.

There are no "hets" for the burgundy trait. I just re-confirmed that there have been MANY breedings from people that have had several of them, and nothing close to a burgundy has ever been produced. It was simply a one-of-a-kind unique animal, and the phenotype is non-hereditary.

In other words, every Hondo in the entire country has just as much chance of being a "possible het" for burgundy, even though the "possibility" would probably be around 1,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 of ever producing one...

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Thats what I've been figuring, why I said that I hadn't heard if the strain proved out. I sure hate it. That was one more beautiful Snake. Snakebuz

Thanks Doug.
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ok,it starts like this.Take note young grasshoppers.LOL.....

That snake was produced by Regis Offerman out of Colorado in (1999).I talked with Regis about it and he said it hatched out as a pretty normal looking amel but had some weird tipping.He raised it up to 3 years old and then decided to get out of colubrids all together.He is also the first person to ever produce the extreme red albino hognose just fyi.

Anyway, he sold that male snake along with about four or five others to a buddy of mine (Luis Torres) in Salt Lake city utah.Luis took and bred him to a few females including a couple sibling females and even to a nice hypo female.
I was lucky enough to purchase a pair of the double het hybinos from him that he had produced from that killer male.I saw that snake in person a couple times and I will tell you that Picture is not touched up at all!If anything it actually takes away to the way it really looked.I have seen thousands of amels over the years and that is still the best looking one I have ever seen.
Anyway,A couple years went by and Luis sold that snake along with the rest and some offspring etc.. to Ric Blair of Salt Lake.
Ric had him a couple years but lost him for no apperant reason in (07 or 08).
In late (2010) and early 2011 when ric got out of snakes he sold off the 30 or 40 animals he had from that line and it was his belief that it took a couple years for the trait to show up so you had to hold back and watch them change blah blah....Well,b.s. cause I also got some hatchlings from Ric back in about (05) and have produced about 25-30 out of my pair and none have ever turned out anything even close to dad/uncle granddad etc.....
My buddy Scott in Kansas bought out what Ric had left in the group and he has also told me has produced nothing special at all.
Just a one-off if you ask me.
Anyway, there it is in a nutshell!

L8r Shannon

"it was his belief that it took a couple years for the trait to show up so you had to hold back and watch them change blah blah....Well,b.s."

LMAO!!,..too funny man!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Thanks loads, Shannon. I never could have hoped to come up with all that info. Gerry sent me a link to a picture of that same snake along with one just slightly less impressive. Sure would have loved it if they coulda' been reproduced.

Snakebuz

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I seem to recall that sweet burgundy specimen died years ago. Can't remember exactly if it was a rack heating malfunction or what.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com