Well sort of finished reading it... always too predictable as to who is going to say what so most of it can be skipped, but...
For the first damn time I actually believe all the "usual suspects" might really intend to mend their ways.
Being a newbie to these forums I can assure you that most of what I see here is a turn off... posts that start off as something potentially informative quickly degenerate into p#@$ing contests... rather a shame for the poor guy or gal that started the OP hoping to get a little help from those with a little more experience. Part of what all of you are trying to accomplish here is lending a helping hand... read that thread... do you think that's what you're doing? I sure as hell don't!
Anyway... at the end of the tread in question... there seems to be some hope (to me anyway), hope you all live up to your words and intentions. As the old adage has it... "There is more than one way to skin a cat"
Gerry


At times I think i am a babysitter.