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ugh every place in calling in tallahassee says no reptiles, period. no snakes, no lizards. im trying to avoid the 'dont let them know' route because i dont want to end up getting evicted for them later or having to find new homes overnight. and i cant give my babies up either if i already lived in tallahassee i could potentially just rent from an individual who doesnt care like i do now, but this time i wouldnt get to meet them first so it doesnt seem like a good idea. im so worried

thanks for listning to my rant
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.1.0 leopard gecko (sebastian and vilma),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.1 bearded dragon (kaipo, dulce, and kellen), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

Just look for apartments and when you find one you might like ask them to have a copy of the lease to read, if it does no state no reptiles, rent it. They have no grounds to evict you later and this is stuff that legal aid loves to take on free if you do run into a problem

heh thanks. the big problem is that im moving 8 hours away, so i cant really look at the place or paperwork beforehand, since i have to move so soon and everything. but luckily, i just put a reservation down on a place that says the reptiles are no big deal. its more expensive that i intended, but it should be ok. now i just gotta figure out how to transport 5 snakes and 5 lizards in my car for 8 hours and still be able to take food and bathroom breaks, plus how to sneak them into a hotel (my place will be available the day i start work and probably not before, which means one of two nights in a hotel)

i coulda given up the snakes if i haaaaad to, but my beardies? never!
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.1.0 leopard gecko (sebastian and vilma),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.1 bearded dragon (kaipo, dulce, and kellen), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

You're better off being honest up front, because you never know exactly what you're moving to. For example, I have rented part of my house for years. People have tried to pull the "I won't mention pets" on me, but because I live here and haven't seperated the house off, the landlord and tennant act doesn't apply. Also, I have a number of animals myself, and bringing in more would cause a huge upset, more than likely with the incoming animal taking the brunt of it. If its not specified in the lease, they may not be able to kick you out, but they can make your life a living hell and endanger your animals as well, plus the building owner could pull potential nasties using exotics by-laws.

I can see both sides, because I live both sides. I hate it when people can't find somewhere to live with their pets, but I hate it when people try to move in and not say anything until afterwards. I have a pet clause in my lease, I'm willing to talk about it with people and consider it, but I have really strict guidelines, ie. it has to be kept as well or better than my pets. I have let people move in with rodents, fish etc and wouldn't have a problem with reptiles, but my house can't take a 5th dog, and with 2 cat-killers in the house, a cat other than my own is out of the question for the safety of the incoming cat.

On the upside, thats great that you found somewhere pet friendly Its worth it in the long run!

Here, there's a provision in the landlord tenant act, that they can't deny you an apartment because of your pets. They can't have a no pet clause on the lease. The only condition is if it destroys something or people complain of noise, you have to pay to repair it, and you can be evicted. But, that seems reasonable! And besides, who would even know you had reptiles! That hardly seems fair, its not like they're gonna disrupt the neighbours, or chew your baseboards!!
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proud caretaker to: 0.0.1 beardie, 1.0.0 leopard gecko, 1.0.0 African grey parrot, 1.1.0 cockatiels (and some eggs), 1.4.0 doggies (husky, husky X, border collie, aussie shepherd, german shepherd)

seriously, reptiles are the most apartment friendly pets. they wont stain the carpet, wont poop on the grounds, wont bark all night. but so many people just haev such a bad image of reptiles, snakes in particular. i could understand if it was a 15 foot boa or venomous, but all my babies are small and harmless. i thoguht about just not telling them and i would have done that if id had to, but then i run the risk of them coming in for maintenance and such, discovering the animals and kicking me out. thank goodnses this place is more or less cool with it!
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.1.0 leopard gecko (sebastian and vilma),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.1 bearded dragon (kaipo, dulce, and kellen), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

yeah, its really great that you found a place that was ok with it! Some people, I just don't get it! What could you possibly have against a cute little lizard!!?? ah well
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proud caretaker to: 0.0.1 beardie, 1.0.0 leopard gecko, 1.0.0 African grey parrot, 1.1.0 cockatiels (and some eggs), 1.4.0 doggies (husky, husky X, border collie, aussie shepherd, german shepherd)

Mandora, see my post above. There are many circumstances under which you may not be covered under Landlord and Tennant Act, even if you think you are. Trust me, I've had plenty of tennants try to get out of their lease, try to cause trouble, try to use the Landlord and Tennant Act, and every time they've lost because of the way my rentals are set up - voids the Landlord and Tennant Act, and basically what I say goes. I live in a university town, and I see it all the time. I hate to see students getting screwed, but it happens, I use the situation to protect my small horde of pets and to keep things as nice as possible for everyone here, but just the same I could turn it around and really make people's lives uncomfortable with no way for them to refute it.

Example? Under the Landlord and Tennant Act in Canada, a home has to be maintained at at least 20oC. My house? I could turn the heat down to 15oC and no one could do anything about it. I don't, but I could

Don't know where you are, but in Ontario, it doesn't matter what you stipulate in your lease. You can have a no pets clause, but, as its against the law, its a void clause. Ive already gone to court about this with one of my landlords, and he lost. He tried to kick me out because I had a dog, but the judge said that unless they are causing destruction, or violating noise laws, he can't kick me out. And the building must be maintained according to the land lord tenant act, or again, the land lord is in breach of the act. It doesn't matter if the tenant signs something waiving their rights, you can't, as a landlord ask them to do that, and the courts will side with them. (if it's a law, just cause you ask them to waive it, doesn't make it leagall) And if you do try to make the apartment uninhabitable (as my landlord tried to do) you are again in breach, and the courts will order you to maintain it properly, or you risk a huge fine.
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proud caretaker to: 0.0.1 beardie, 1.0.0 leopard gecko, 1.0.0 African grey parrot, 1.1.0 cockatiels (and some eggs), 1.4.0 doggies (husky, husky X, border collie, aussie shepherd, german shepherd)

I live in Ontario. Because I am a principal owner and a resident of the building I rent, and because those rented rooms are not seperated as individual residences, the landlord and tennant act does not apply to this residency. Be very careful. If any relative of mine occupies any of the rooms here, I can leave and still be covered by *my* lease, and landlord and tennant act doesn't apply. I've been renting 4 properties for over 20 years, believe me I know what I'm talking about. Having dealt with literally hundreds of university students, and never having lost in court (but successfully winning in court many times) has given me a very clear understanding of not only what applies when, but many of the tricks and games people play.