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these new laws effect you then take a look at this little gem below.

If we don't wake up and ALL get on the EXACT SAME PAGE we are doomed as a HOBBY!

This is for Europe..... jumping on the Invasive Species band wagon with things like Bearded Dragons and Leopard Geckos in their sites!!!!

SATAN
Europe Get ready to Ban Reptiles!

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cachebXZjAKQIP8J:www.peregrine-livefoods.co.uk/images/images/Online-public-consultation-2012.pdf &hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiDfQLA8-hzHrZvOXWU8JDuM3knvk2tQQv4ezIOWA4jiMdE_QdeZE6mCuBvhK5Eb_pKEIWKmL4CC0EGBP6qqz63vSui_u0Lhz9bBWaFiYeztFnl5tKiocIM0RJZltcmOFPG7ETx&sig=AHIEtbRKpFBCGFxcP5plsxz3Xym1Ur4r-g

Hopefully this works.
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Ok, this link does not want to work.... I did a search for Europe ban bearded dragons.

Here is how it starts...

Federation of British Herpetologists

Invasive Alien Species: Online public consultation on control
measures for the European Union

The European Union is currently carrying out a public consultation on the way it should control potentially invasive
alien species (IAS) across the whole of the EU. This is your opportunity to make your views known to the politicians
who will be making decisions that could affect the future of reptile keeping across the EU, including the UK.

What is an Invasive Alien Species (IAS)?
Any species (animals and plants, but also bacteria and other organisms) which is transported to an area which is not
within its normal geographical range is a potential IAS. To be an IAS, however, the species needs to be released into
the new location, be able to survive in the new area if released and then be able to reproduce and spread.

Why is this important?
An animal released into an area to which it is not native may cause no ill effect at all. It may not survive at all and even
if it does it could have no effect on the local ecosystem. Some species can, however, cause ecological or economic
damage which can affect native species or cost governments many millions of pounds to tackle.

How does this affect my hobby?
Reptile keeping (and many other hobbies, such as gardening) involve keeping species that are not native to the EU,
such as corn snakes from the USA, bearded dragons from Australia or leopard geckos from Pakistan. Such species
are considered to be potential IAS and so will be covered by any legislation introduced by the EU. If this legislation is
fair and appropriate then it should be supported, but if it is constructed badly then it could lead to controls on species
that are not proven to be harmful and which are kept in huge numbers. This could directly affect your right to pursue
your currently legal hobby of reptile keeping.
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But some species may cause harm, so these should surely be controlled?
Absolutely! There are some species that have the potential to cause harm and so are true IAS. These should be
scientifically assessed in a proper way and controlled in an appropriate way which protects the environment whilst not
affecting species that are not proved to be harmful. Responsible keepers must support balanced and appropriate
legislation while resisting inappropriate laws.

How do I make my views known?
The public consultation is being carried out on-line and can be found at
http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=Invasiveupdated You should go to the website and fill
out the online survey to make your views known. You should also let other keepers know, both in the UK and
particularly anyone you know in other European countries, so that they can make their views known. The FBH have
an official position on the most appropriate answers, which are outlined below. You should, however, answer the
questions in the manner that you personally feel is most appropriate.

This is a long detailed document but its importance cannot be over emphasised. Please
take the time to read it and to register your opinions on the European commission website;

http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=Invasiveupdated
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Invasive Species ban Europe Reptiles...

Not good!!

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1432902
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Survey is not available anymore.

Honestly, I agree that some species can be invasive but doesn't mean we should threat all reptiles in the same bags. Caution owner is the first thing, sadly it's not possible to regulate everyone and even a little number of "stupid" people can be problematic.

The real question, how do you save people hobby while keeping it under control from unvasive species ?

Lastly, wouldn't dogs and cats be considered as invasive ?
As far as I know, they are not native to North America and can survive quite well all around and do reproduce with out problems....
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Here are some good links on the issue:

EU contemplating ban on invasive species

EUARK - Important News
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