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This is the first clutch of eggs I've ever hatched, I paired my spider male with my normal female and got 7 good eggs. Unfortunately, one only lived for two weeks before going bad. The other seven continued on great, and the first one pipped today (day 54.) Since one had already pipped I decided to cut the clutch... Unfortunately, there isn't a single spider in this clutch. They all look healthy and fat, though, so I'm not complaining!

The parents:

Hmmm, sorry, here ya go

Sorry for your luck, even the best breeders have bad odds every once in a while. Could you post more pics of the parents. I am not sure if it's just me but the male doesn't look like a spider to me. He looks like a light normal. Maybe a pic of just him would show better. It might explain your odds. I hope I am wrong. I have several spiders and they don't look like yours. Please don't take this the wrong way. I am sure it's my eyes letting me down. Post more pics when you can. The attached pic is my big female spider.

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Spider

That's a Spider.

Grade B Spider, but still a Spider.

To sell the Grade B Spiders, some people give them a fancy name like 'Lo-White Spider' or 'No-White Spider'.....

The head pattern on that snake is Spider all the way.
Crappy odds on the clutch. Damn.

BB
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"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

Thanks for the explanation. My contactacts are in need of changing so I was looking with blurred vision. I guess I haven't seen any grade b spiders in person so I wasn't familiar with them. The pics are a few of the spider babies I have made. The spider is a fem and will be breeding real soon.

but i guess to each their own...thats a nice spider...nice and reduced pattern...sorry for the bad odds u got...next time will hopefully make up for it...

Honestly, I dont think low white is a "B" grade. If anything was a B it would probably be spiders with alien heads all over them....
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I seriously think the more fur an animal has, the more attention it wants....I need a goldfish.

Back when Spiders were 10, 12, 15 or 20K.........

and people preferred the ones with higher white sides.....

people began labeling some Spiders as 'Lo-White' or 'No-White' or even 'High-Orange'.....

and in some cases, they were priced cheaper than a Spider with the traditional 'white sides'.....

Yes, Grade B Spiders.....to some of us at least.

(When I picture a Spider Ball Python I'm picturing white sides....)

I've never sold Spiders (I have a KillerBee male, yes), and I didn't get seriously into Ball Pythons until after various market crashes, so I'm not the one who established what is and isn't a top notch, textbook Spider Ball Python.

I'm just a hobbyist, I don't sell at shows.
But, I do help out at a good friend's table a couple times a year, and I've seen firsthand how Spiders with white sides sell better than Spiders with NO white sides....
(People like the contrast of the white scales? Call it the Piebald factor, I guess.....)

BB

PS: Next up, let's talk about the less visually impressive specimens of Spotnose and Desert Ball Pythons!

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"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

Not sure even back in the day that a spider that has nice golden color, reduced pattern and nice webbing would be considered Grade B. More likely the other one shown with the alien heads and more "normal" patterning and coloring would be an example of Grade B - irregardless of the amount of white it needs to have the spider look to it.
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Tosha

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