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I got this snake back in December. It was a rescue from a guy that really did not want it and his wife was ready to kill it. His name is Panda. He was in bad shape when I got it. Skinny and lethargic. Once I got him to eat, He has been an aggressive eater ever since. Looks really healthy now. I finally took him to the vet to find out it's sex. The previous owner and even the vet said it's tail looked like a female. Well, to the vet's surprise, he is a male. Now to the point of this post.

I got a good stool sample that day. The vet said he looked really healthy. But he found pin worms and mitts in his stool. He gave him two pills to give him on his next two feedings. So, What can y'all tell me about Pin worms and what concerns should I have and what action should I take, if any??

Vet said he got the mitts from a f/t mice. Which brings me to my future post untitled "My Pet Store Sucks"

DAVY

Typo "entitled" I hate spell check, it never can read my mind. LOL Of course I am Dyslexic, so that would be a task in itself.

>>Typo "entitled" I hate spell check, it never can read my mind. LOL Of course I am Dyslexic, so that would be a task in itself.

So did you mean mites?
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What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

Well, To be honest, I don't really know how I could have meant anything else. It's just a misspelling or typo or me not proof reading my stuff.

I don't see how it really matters because I was not asking about the mites, I was asking about the pin worms.

I must apologize, cause I must be missing the irony of the joke, cause I hardly ever see anyone critiquing misspellings by other people.

Anyway, should I be concerned about pin worms?

DAVY

I think you need to find a new vet.

A vet that cannot determine the gender of an adult king, needs to stop looking at reptiles.

Also mites cannot come from frozen mice.

Lastly, a real vet would have/should have explained and answered the questions you asked here. Best wishes

I think you mistook me for someone else? I never made fun of you.
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What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

Yea your right sorry. My inexperience makes me nervous when somethings not going just right.

Mitts make me laugh.

Vet said he got the mitts from a f/t mice.

Obviously I am at a loss to as what are snake mitts!
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

I know I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box. So you could at least go with the flow and pretend you know what I am talking about. An insult, along with some helpful advice would be ok. But just an insult by itself was not very helpful. Thanks

I don't know much about pin worms, since I haven't had to deal with them yet. I bekieve I remember others posting, that they are not serious? Maybe others will chime in. The mites was something I found interesting if you got them from f/t mice. I would try to find another source, or at least bring it to their attention so they can clean house!
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What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

>>> I bekieve I remember others posting, that they are not serious? >The mites was something I found interesting if you got them from f/t mice. I would try to find another source, or at least bring it to their attention so they can clean house!

>> I bekieve I remember others posting, that they are not serious? >The mites was something I found interesting if you got them from f/t mice. I would try to find another source, or at least bring it to their attention so they can clean house!

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Did you mean "Believe" Just kidding LOL

Thanks, I did read somewhere that they could be transferred to human if your not careful.

When I have more time I will post something about where I get my mice.

Thanks again
DAVY

I bekieve I remember others posting, that they are not serious?

Did you mean "Believe" Just kidding LOL

Thanks, I did read somewhere that they could be transferred to human if your not careful.

The mites was something I found interesting if you got them from f/t mice. I would try to find another source, or at least bring it to their attention so they can clean house!

When I have more time I will post something about where I get my mice.

Thanks again
DAVY

yeah, ny spelling is not the best either. I only asked cause maybe it was something I had not heard of before. Since you typed it twice the same way, I thought maybe you meant to type it that way? No harm, I mispell words all the time, many times because of fat fingers.
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What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

I know I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box. So you could at least go with the flow and pretend you know what I am talking about. An insult, along with some helpful advice would be ok. But just an insult by itself was not very helpful. Thanks
Apologies!
Helpful advice:
Understanding Reptile Parasites by Roger J. Klingenberg, DVM. He not only explains what sort of parasites there are, including mites and nematodes(pinworms) but also gives good advice on treatment.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

you cannot get mites from frozen mice.
its also very possible the pin worms were/are from the mice. however worms are/were dead/killed when frozen and cannot be transmitted to snakes when they are dead, but would show up in fecal tests.
another reason to feed frozen is ZERO chance of parasite transmission.
did your vet say whether the worms were alive or dead?
does he/she understand that the worms and eggs that were frozen in the mice will pass through the bowel track and very often are confused as a positive test?
2 pills???.... thats scary

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The Vet did say the pin worms were alive. So, if what you are saying is correct, that the pin worms would have to be dead if they came from the mice. Which only sounds logical.

So, I would have to assume he has had the pin worms ever since I got him back in December. Correct?

The Vet said the mites came from the mice I gave him. So, I can assume that the mites he was talking about were dead. Correct?

Is two pills not enough? If not, I can assume he wants me to come back so I can give him more money.

One thing I am learning here is that I did not ask the right question while I was at the vet's office.

Thanks for all the feed back everybody.

DAVY

assume nothing.
there are hundreds of species of mite most do not affect repitles. they are fairly easy to id and eradicate. no species of mite can be transmitted via frozen rodent.
pin worms/round worms are also easily eradicated but ive never heard of a vet giving pills to a snake. snakes cant assimilate pills and meds are usally in the form of powder, paste, liquid. for worms its usally 1 dose followed up by a second in 10to14 days.
dont feel intimidated by calling your vet. and asking any question you want anytime you want, you are a paying customer.
good luck
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Pinworms should be easy to get rid of. That's as long as your vet was right about that......There is a company called Jeffrees(spelling?). They sell panacure in the form of a liquid goat wormer called Safeguard. It is fenbendazole. That is what is usually used for pinworms. Recommended that you treat 3 days in a row and then 3 days in a row 10-14 days later. You must keep your cage spotless during this time. Snake can be reinfected if it eats a microscopic ova of the bedding or floor.Don't feed them during treatment....Whatever your vet gave you is not proper as stated before. Vets almost never give pills to snakes, if ever, as stated above. Find a new Vet that has a clue about reptiles. He is not treating a dog.....Also get Klingenbergs book as stated above.....hope this helps. Mike Bodner
Mike Bodner's Thayeri

Thank you very much. That was very helpful. I will definitely go through the step to eradicate the pin worms.

I love where I live so don't get me wrong. It appears that any profession here is "sub-par". Vet's, Doctor's, Dentist's, and IMO it is due to the fact that we live one hour north of a big city and one hour south of a big city. So we get the left over's. The guys that could not make it in the big city in there own profession.

It's also controlled by the KKK, Mafia, and old money. Never the less, it is still a great place to live IMO. LOL

Thanks again
DAVY

Correction........that company was Jeffers.