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Was out in the field a bit, to bad the king was dor.
This arizona coral was not touched and photographed, which is not so easy.
The above is a highly gravid female vinesnake, I almost brought it home. I would love to see babies hatch. But I did not touch her.
I thought the king was really clean. Best wishes
That's crazy, the coral just posed for you. Was it earlier in the day? The vine is cool but the senticolis Is my favorite, Santa Ritas?
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Gerard
"Dream the same thing every night, I see our freedom in my sight.
No locked doors, no windows barred, no things to make my brain seem scarred. "
Excellent finds, and great in-situ shots, FR.
Shame about that king, it was indeed very clean...love the thin bands.
That Coral is stunning! Same with the Oxy. Hell, all of the snakes were great!
Cool stuff Frank!......it certainly is too bad that the "yumensis" phenotype king was a DOR. The coral and Vine "in-situ" photos are great!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
"some are just born to troll and roll"
Thanks guys, I am going back tomorrow and see if that vine has moved. If you notice in the night pic, she is hanging her eggs.
I normally do everything to not touch snakes particularly is they are in the field. Of course I move them off roads if they are endanger.
If you do not interfere with them, sometimes it offers to the oppertunity to view them over long periods. I have now watched a pair of gilas, for 33 continious years.
This year, we used time lapse cameras to some success. But I have have a lot to learn with those. Cheers
VERY cool Frank. The vine and the coral are my favorites. AZ coral snakes are just amazing to me. I am sure that critter was small and jittery as all get out!!!
Joe
Hello, actually that was the last shot of the series, that coral was one of the few that I got pics of without it moving or touching it. As most just never stop moving.
After seeing it, it just crawled slowly and head bobbed like it should. But after a while it got tired of having its picture taken. and warmed us with that tail lifting.
That was not a large one, maybe 15 inches. We see them fairly often, but not commonly, they are fairly widespread in habitat type.
The largest I have seen was 7 miles from that one and was 28 inches TL. 18 to 22 inches are normal adults. Cheers
Thanks Frank. They are one of my favorite snakes looks wise. I used to have an eastern coral as a teen. (I know, stupid kid!) LOL. They seem to always have that quick jerky temperment. I have heard scarlet kings don't handle well and wonder if this is part of their coral mimic.(eastern corals) Anyway, very cool. I actually like the way AZ corals look more than easterns but have never seen one in the wild. Thanks for the pics..
Joe
Great pics! I didn't know the vine snakes were indigenous to the States.
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What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com
They are and they occur in 3 to 5 mountain ranges. Three for sure. Indeed they are along the border. Best wishes
Any Ocelots down there? Have you seen any big cats in your time down there?
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Gerard
"Dream the same thing every night, I see our freedom in my sight.
No locked doors, no windows barred, no things to make my brain seem scarred. "
Ocelots are in So. Az. But I have not seen one myself here. Seen them in Mexico.
I have seen one Jaquar, a handful of Mt. Lions, and lots of bobcats, with one Jaguarundi.
As you can imagine, cats are wary and not often seen even when they are relatively common. Last year we had a Mt. Lion hit about two miles from my house. And its not really a cat, but we had a ringtailed cat move in our house once. Cheers
That's awesome! I have seen 3 FL panthers in the Everglades. I never looked for them, just all by chance. My friends see them all the time sitting in their tree stands. The Jaguar would be a highlight of my life.
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Gerard
"Dream the same thing every night, I see our freedom in my sight.
No locked doors, no windows barred, no things to make my brain seem scarred. "
All but the kingsnake are at the spot that MACHOB was killed a few years ago. MachoB was the last known male jaguar in the state. But I think there are a few more. Cheers
Killed?
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Gerard
"Dream the same thing every night, I see our freedom in my sight.
No locked doors, no windows barred, no things to make my brain seem scarred. "
yeah F&G killed him. Beleive it or not they captured and euthanized him.
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Observing them in a cage by themsleves with set temps and deciding when to feed is hardly natural or healthy for the snakes.
Bluerosy
You are doing what suits you. which is fine, but its not about the animal, its about you. Your requirements.
Frank Retes
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They contracted a convicted poacher/lion hunter to snare Mt. Lions and Bears(reportedly to study them, which is bullshat) and he snared it, and it tore itself completely up, so they put a radio collar on it, then put it down later.
There was lots of crap over it, some game and fish folks left the office. And the feds were hot and heavy, then all of a sudden its all swept under the rug. Cheers
It was not an accident, they placed female jaguar dung around the snare to attact the male.
Do they know who the poacher was?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
Game and fish, hired/contracted him to snare cats and bears. Then he was asked to snare the jaguar. Like I said, some folks got in trouble over this one.
I would like to run into those guys out in the field. Thats the most depressing thing I have heard this year. I'm sure there are more, like you said. You just haven't seen them yet, they are pretty hard to see in more common areas. That's crazy you got to see it in the US.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
Game and fish said its the last U.S. jaguar.
Damn! That sucks!
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
Just google it, there is plenty of information.....not mis-information that you can read about.
Kerby...
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Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.
That sucks how machoB died, he was a good looking cat. It also showed another cat found last year by some hunter. That gives me hope, I need to talk to some friends over there. Thanks Kerby!
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
Kerby, Google is nothing more then heresay. And its full of mis-information.
The real reason that cat and others were being killed has not been published.
For instance, what was the reason that trapper was down there in the first place?
Just google it and read all about. It is pretty up front.
Kerby...
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Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.
Google Whistling for Macho B. That is the most accurate from what I have read. and its dead on.
The whole ordeal centered around the scat. And that took the focus off the lion/bear trapper.
You snare large animals to TAKE them, not release and study them. To Snare them kills them both physically and behaviorally.
Its a method to "take", not a method to "study". You cannot snare a large cat and expect it to carry on as normal after release.
This is where theres a total coverup. I do not have a lot of respect for what biologists do with animals, but I have to believe they are smarter then that.
A friend of mine that IS a biologist, told me at the in occurred, and we were working IN THAT AREA. Game and fish had a "deal" with the ranchers to take some lions and bears, out of the area. So they hired a trapper, which they did.
Of all that surfaced and all that was reported, that is by far the best and more logical reason this jaguar was killed. Cheers
Also game and fish is suppose to manage Arizona wildlife for the use of the people of arizona. THat does not always mean providing for, it can also mean, controlling numbers.
The problem here is, the ranchers are leasing grazing land in public STATE forests, and NATIONAL forests, which are being protected as natural, not being protected as cow pastures. And if you have been in these state and national forests, they are taking the look of cow pastures. Which is clearly not the intent of creating public lands. Cheers
I haven't read the article you linked to yet. I'll read it later. So you're suggesting that the jaguar was a problem for the rancher, killing cows, so they snared it to "study" it but not really to study it, they just wanted it gone?
What a shame.
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www.hcu-tx.org/
>>Ocelots are in So. Az. But I have not seen one myself here. Seen them in Mexico.
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>> I have seen one Jaquar, a handful of Mt. Lions, and lots of bobcats, with one Jaguarundi.
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>> As you can imagine, cats are wary and not often seen even when they are relatively common. Last year we had a Mt. Lion hit about two miles from my house. And its not really a cat, but we had a ringtailed cat move in our house once. Cheers
I've seen Ocelots, Jaguars, Mt. Lions, Bobcats and Jagurundies down here in South Texas.......It's been 25 plus years since I've seen an ocelot or jaguarundi.......Awesome felines!
BTW...great photos Frank...thanks for sharing!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
That's awesome! I would like to see those more than Drymobius, maybe I will get lucky. Hell, at this point one of those chimichangas you told me about sound the best, lol! Did you ever get any pics of the cats?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>That's awesome! I would like to see those more than Drymobius, maybe I will get lucky. Hell, at this point one of those chimichangas you told me about sound the best, lol! Did you ever get any pics of the cats?
Most of the time I was deer hunting and did not have a camera....
I grew up on 20 acres in Aransas County and saw ocelots, jaguarundies and one jaguar there......
I'd love to go find some again and snap some shots......
But I can for sure hook you up with a chimichanga....maybe even a drymobius if we are lucky.....lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
We need to do that, Do sit in blinds or just hike around?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>We need to do that, Do sit in blinds or just hike around?
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>>Gerard
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>>"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
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>>www.livebaitclip.com
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>>GONE FISHING!!!
We sit in blinds for deer, nilgai, hog, fallow and axis hunting.....the land is pretty flat down below the Nueces River......and the trees are rather short....lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Sweet, I will have to buy a bunch more camera traps when I go. I have been inspired to see these cats in the USA. I heard you guys have chupacabra down there too??? Lol!
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
" I heard you guys have chupacabra down there too??? Lol!"
I seem to recall seeing John on an episode of "Monster Quest" a good while back describing his accounts of one he found there..
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
"some are just born to troll and roll"
John, for real?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
.......I was just messin' with you guys..HAHAAHAHA!!!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
"some are just born to troll and roll"
I remembered that stupid show. I was just looking for it to see if it was true. Lol! I thought it was weird, he seems to smart for something like that.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>I remembered that stupid show. I was just looking for it to see if it was true. Lol! I thought it was weird, he seems to smart for something like that.
There was actually a Chupacabra (goat sucker) found in Cuero, Texas.....LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtoQGeeTUAg
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Now who hear has actually seen a sasquatch?
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Observing them in a cage by themsleves with set temps and deciding when to feed is hardly natural or healthy for the snakes.
Bluerosy
You are doing what suits you. which is fine, but its not about the animal, its about you. Your requirements.
Frank Retes
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I keep one out back in my shed. She is actually kind of sexy after a good bath and a comb!!!
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Randy Whittington
>>I keep one out back in my shed. She is actually kind of sexy after a good bath and a comb!!!
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>>Randy Whittington
Back in the early 90s I woke up next to one or two......lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
>>Back in the early 90s I woke up next to one or two......lol
That's what she said.
Now ya'll know where I've been when I'm not on the forum. Randy's got me shaved and stuck in his shed!
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
I've seen one mountain lion out here in CA and I see bobcats pretty frequently. I've got pics of a mamma bobcat with some cubs too. I was walking on a road closed to vehicles in a park and the mamma was down in a grassy area by a creek watching her cubs play/hunt in some tall weeds. As I walked down the road and got closer she called to them with an unusual growl and they came to her and they all went running away up a hillside and into a forested area.
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www.hcu-tx.org/
Very nice finds, Frank. I really like the Coral and Green Rat. That kingsnake is really cool looking. What County did you find it in?
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>>Very nice finds, Frank. I really like the Coral and Green Rat. That kingsnake is really cool looking. What County did you find it in?
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OK, I guess some people don't read all their replies. That's Lame
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Dang dude have a little patience, Pima I believe.
>>Dang dude have a little patience, Pima I believe.
This isn't the first time. Thanks.
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or the last, good luck
>>or the last, good luck
lol
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Killer snakes Frank! I really like that second pic, thanks for sharing!
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Can't say anything that hasn't already been said. The coral is stunning!
--Dennis
Those are some great finds! I've been finding ringneck snakes and gopher snakes this spring. No kings yet.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.
thats good stuff FR thanks for posting.
ive got green vinesnakes(ahaetulla) and i love them they will only eat lizards but ive got 11 and 13yr. old sons to take care of that for me great snakes.
i love those browns from down your way. have you ever kept any? are they like the asians and only eat lizards?
thanks
,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???
my website www.barmollysplace.com
I am heading back out in a few minutes, but mostly yes, they are lizard feeders. And its actually kinda odd what kind of lizards, so far, no tree type lizards have been found in stomach contents, just ground dwelling types. Cheers
Nice little excursion. You getting a good amount of rain like TX is?
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson
No rain, not locally or much anywhere. We are in our dry season and in a drought.
The habitat where these vinesnakes occur is about 2/3 burnt to a crisp. And when I say burnt, its looking bit moonscapish.
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