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History of Wild-Caught Mexican Milksnake

John Fraser May 14, 2012 09:28 PM

Hi All,
25 Years Ago today, May 14, 1987, when I was 28 years old, I had taken a week of vacation to hunt snakes in South & West Texas. 1987 was a year I had come to look forward to, for the State of Texas had lifted the protection status off of Graybanded Kingsnakes & Mexican Milksnakes & I could now actually just buy a license & hit the roads without any real concerns from getting busted for something as trivial as finding a tri-colored milk or kingsnake, without looking over my shoulder anymore. Anyway, back to 25 years ago this day. I had driven my 1978 yellow Datsun truck into Freer this evening & drove around checking for places to stay, from Motels to shacks & ended up renting a travel trailer from an old man, named Mr. Ford, who had a sign along the West side of TX-16, in the North edge of town. He offered me a small trailer for $10.00 a night, which I considered affordable at that time. After paying Mr. Ford & getting the trailer keys, I unloaded some things, then drove on into town & visited the local Dairy Queen there. By now, it was already 8:30pm & the sun had set already. I was late to get out driving I had thought, as I always started driving just before dark in West TX in the past & thought I should do the same here. Of course hunger had overroad my hunting urge, so I thought to myself, so what if I get a late start, I'll be out searching right after a great meal here. So without regrets, I ordered my food & it was about 8:45pm by the time they had it ready. I sat there relishing my cheeseburger, fries & a coke & thought about how exciting it would be to soon head back out on the road to snake hunt for that elusive annulata milksnake that I had looked at countless photos of in books & read & re-read its natural history notes in books like Williams 1st edition Milksnake book. Just past 9pm now when I left Dairy Queen & headed North out of Freer, on TX-16. My plans were to hunt the intersection area North of Freer, at the junction of TX-16 and TX-624, road cruising 4-5 miles N & S of that jct. on 16 & also driving the 11 mile West stretch of TX-624, that crossed the Nueces River & went past a Naval Test Station Site, where my turn around point would be, then back to 16 again. Freer is in Duval county, but after some 7-10 miles North of town, you cross into McMullen county, so McMullen would be my target area mainly, though I knew milks could turn up anywhere in the entire area. Ok, leaving town North, I soon find a dor Western Diamondback Rattlesnake, as I recall, while still in Duval county, then head on North into McMullen county. Its dark now & I am hoping to see a live snake sometime & it doesnt take to long. Around 9:30pm, at exactly 17 miles North of Freer, on the East shoulder of TX highway 16, in my headlights I see the taletell tri-colors of a snakes body slowly moving towards the grass in the bar ditch here & its un-mistakable, its an Annulata! My first live snake of this trip & bingo!, I find the snake I had driven over 700 miles South to search for & catch, a Mexican Milksnake. By the time I get stopped, I am nearly almost past the snake & I quickly stop the truck & jump out with a flashlight in hand & run towards the snake, which is now 2/3 of its way into the grass, with only the last 1/3 of its body visable. I quickly & gently grab the snakes last third area & then get a better hold of the entire snake, as it squirms & defecates in my hands, but no problem here, for I had just caught my first ever wild annulata from its natural surrounding throrn-brush habitat, quick check of it & it was about 25" long & was a male & it was great! Mission accomplished I said to myself & continued on that night, finding other snakes, but not another milksnake that night. Fast Forward now to May 14, 2012. Today is a epic day for that 87 found annulata & its owner. For today marks 25 years of its survival in captivity & is currently my all-time longevity record for any milksnake that I have ever kept. Today, this old male annulata measures around 34" & other than a benighn abcess, on one side of its body, near its vent, hes in pretty good shape & I do beleive that since he was 25" long when first captured, that the snake was no doubt at least 3-5 years of age then, which would make its actual age 28-30 years old! Heres 2 shots taken today, 5-14-2012, of the old annulata, which lives on still in my collection here in Fredonia, KS. He again bred a female annulata this year, from about 7 miles away, and she will be laying another clutch of McMullen county, TX annulata eggs in the next few days. Hope you enjoyed the actual account of this snake & his continuing history......JF

Male Mexican Milksnake, wildcaught 5-14-87 from McMullen County, TX:

Replies (15)

mrkent May 14, 2012 10:16 PM

That's a great account, John. Thanks. Do you have a picture of when it was young?
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Kent

John Fraser May 15, 2012 12:50 PM

Kent, I will see about digging up a earlier photo of him from the 80's, he IS the same male annulata that was photoed & placed of "The Milksnakes of North America" colored poster, which was crafted by Wally Broda & Gerold Merker. I think that poster was released in 1991, so his pic from it was taken in 88 or 89 I am sure. Later, John

rodneyj May 14, 2012 11:43 PM

Dedication?!?!?!? is all I can come up with other than being humbled by your post.WOW.

Dniles May 15, 2012 04:48 AM

John

Incredible story! I enjoyed reading that. You have a great memory to recall all those details!! So cool that snake is still around doing its thing!

Folks, I saw that snake in person a few weeks ago and it is spectacular!

Dave
DNS reptiles -milk snakes

denbar May 15, 2012 08:33 AM

Enjoyed the account immensely! Good looking snake too, and still going strong!

--Dennis

RG May 15, 2012 09:32 AM

Thanks for the great story!

-Rusty

SunHerp May 15, 2012 09:45 AM

Reading the account was almost as good as hearing it in person! Man, what a story! You've got Dell and I down for some hatchlings, right?!

I'll give you a shout later this morning.
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DMong May 15, 2012 12:00 PM

Great story, and fantastic looking annulata John!....thanks a bunch for sharing that with us. I could picture in my mind ME grabbing it and immediately getting crapped on while reading the story....

~Doug
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KcTrader May 15, 2012 06:38 PM

John,

I can't say anything more that hasn't been said except what patience you have to hold onto that male and wait for the right female. Kudos to you!
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John Fraser May 15, 2012 07:32 PM

Thanks gang to all the positive & complimentary comments you made. I felt sure everyone would enjoy reading a Kauffeld type account of that annulata trip. When I ever get the Gray-Banded Kingsnake book finished & published that I have started 2 years ago, yet are not even close to being finished, this account, as well as some other milksnake finds & captures will be included in it. By the way, on that 87 trip to Freer, I ended up with 2 or 3 other dor annulata as I recall, will have to verify in my field note book from that year, in the 4 days I spent at Freer, then went on to Val Verde county & in 4-5 more nights secured a nice male blairs phase Gray-Banded Kingsnake also on that trip, so it was indeed a very good & memorable trip.

I will get around to posting the wild-caught female annulata that the old man bred to again this season. She was caught by Jeff Adams (aka: Tanks on the forum) of San Antonio, & for those that may or may not know Jeff very well, he had hunted annulata well before I had met him in the early 80's & I think he told me he has found close to 35-40 annulata from the wild since he started hunting. Jeff skipped a few years & just last year & again this season has been out on a few nights in South TX. Jeff had informed me that the quiet South TX Roads, TX-16 & TX-624, are longer quiet & lightly traveled, but now are loaded with lots of traffic, mainly oil & gas field workers & personnel & that its very difficult to see many live snakes at all anymore on those & several other once quiet back roads in annulata country. He stated that most nights traffic doesnt slow down till 11 to 12am & that he sees more dor's than live snakes on some of our once favorite roads. He has NOT found a single annulata, live or dead last year or this year. Certainly depressing to hear, but not supprising I suppose, given the quest for more oil. Will post more pics soon, again, thanks...John

DISCERN May 16, 2012 01:07 AM

ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!

THAT is what I am talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a great story, and I am so pumped to read about this awesome specimen!

Made my night!
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markg May 16, 2012 03:49 PM

Cool story!

The longest-lived snakes I know of among local hobbyists in my area were all wild-caught as either adults or subadults.

One person I know has wonderful rosyboas. One pair came from an area in Riverside (now under concrete) and were captured as adults, but young adults. They made it 23 and 25 yrs in captivity. Their age at capture could be as much as 5 yrs, not sure of course, but they were sizeable snakes at capture.

What is noteworthy is that their offspring, kept in identical conditions as the parents, never made it past 16 yrs. I thought that was interesting.

Another guy I knew had a wild Cal king, found as an adult, but not an old adult. Again, could be 3-5 yrs old or older, not sure. It was kept outside on a porch (protected from sun and rain) for 22 yrs after capture. Many CB kings do not make 22 yrs, let alone possibly 25 plus.

So what are we doing that kills them earlier? It's not the caging, and I doubt it is food. I think that wild snakes may be inherently tougher.

KcTrader May 17, 2012 07:16 PM

John, Thanks for a great story of this line of annulata! Very Much appreciated.
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mikefedzen May 18, 2012 02:02 AM

That's awesome John. Thanks for the story.
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terryd May 18, 2012 09:55 AM

Great history John, it was neat to hear you tell this animals history in person, and even better that you shared it with everyone here on the milk forum.

-Dell
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