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I remember seeing these many moons ago and just like Jim's "Undescribed Milks" the have pretty much vanished from the milk world. I have read where Jim stated that he "produced over 400 offspring" and they used to triple clutch for him. I just can't imagine this line of celaenops disappearing from the hobby so soon. Is anyone working with his old line? Or maybe have some photo's to share of the animals from this specific locale?

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I remember Jim Kane celaenops. When I started building my celaenops colony I ran across the Jim Kane line. I never purchased any because there wasn't any good locality info. with the ones I looked at. At least thats what I remember anyway.

It's a fair question, where are all those celaenops now? If one breeder doesn't keep his line going himself over the course of many years the line dies out fairly quickly. The snakes need to land in another breeders hands that has a similar passion for the animals. Sometimes that's not easy to find.

L. t. celaenops Brewster Co. TX.

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New Mexican milks are under appreciated milks in my opinion.
-Dell

Wow, Dell those are really sweet! Thanks for sharing. I totally understand what you are saying about breeder lines of animals disappearing when the breeder gets out of the hobby or decides to move on to another species.

Those Anery Hobb,NM celaenops are pretty much obsolete in the hobby, today. I also have to agree with you on them being under appreciated. They typically accept pinks when young, don't grow very big and have the typical newspaper print sides of NA milks.Some have deep red bands some have orange colored bands and of course probably every color in between.

I hope to increase my collection here in the next few years. So far I have Anery Hobb,NM(male);Normal Hobb,NM(female);Black Gap(female);Christmas Mtn(female)1.1 het anery Hobb,NM and looking forward to keeping some more!
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Nice snakes Dell,you better send me some of those so I can keep the line going

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Doug L

Yeah, it is very disappointing that so many specific bloodlines of snakes seem to dwindle away due to records not being kept or cared about. I would think there would have to be quite a few of them out there, but the origin is unknown to the owners and/or mixed with other hobby lines simply making them "generic" celaenops. Nothing wrong with generic snakes at all either, it's just that knowing the origin if at all possible is always icing on the cake and is very important to record as you know...

~Doug
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