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What I forgot to mention in my previous posts was the absolutely amazing thing how it came to the war on Iraq.

One fine day President Bush got up in the morning and decided to start a war on Iraq. Without any current event he gave birth to this decision. There has been no new developement, no attack whatsoever...

It seems like the arch-angel Gabriel (or one of his colleagues) visited Bush at night and told him: Wake up George W. you need to start a war on Iraq.

And when Bush started to talk about the Iraq issue the rest of the world made: Huh? What the heck happens here? What is he talking about...

Or was it that George W. was told by his counsellors that it would be a good thing to fight another country under the label "war on terrorism". And George W. closed his eyes and pointed to a random spot on the world-map. "Ohh... goood, it's Iraq. We have a pending bill on them anyway..."

That's exactly the perception of the people outside the U.S. how it came to this war.

It was out of the blue... (or should I say out of the nothing).

Before you begin to bash me for these lines, please help my bad memory what the reason for this war has been.

I mean a current reason, not 10 years old reasons.
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

LMAO!!! I can always count on you for a GOOD laugh! Just when I think you couldn't possibly come up with another hair-brained idea for a post...WHAM! When it comes to entertainment, you never disappoint us, lol. I didn't even finish reading your post before I was laughing so hard I couldn't wait to hit the respond command! That being said, I'll go back and finish reading it and get right back to you. Thanks buddy. This is like Christmas in October, LOL!

What was the current event that George W. decided to have a war on Iraq?

Please can you enlighten me? I mean it!
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

I'm not sure I understand the question as you've written it. There is nothing "current" about the reason we went to Iraq. George Bush and our government made the decision as a result of not only reports that he is harboring WMD, but also because Saddam continuously failed to comply with the UN's regulations. What is it that you can't seem to understand about that? Make sure you stear clear of that pesky little detail about Saddam's atrocities and why you think we should have left him in power. Speaking of which, I answered your question, now answer this. Why do you think we should have left such an evil dictator in power. That's a simple question which requires a simple answer. Please don't ignore this question like you have all the others. Fair is fair. I answered yours, now answer mine. Thanks!

Stoeckl wanted to leave Saddam right where he was so that Germany could continue to make money selling the "Bio Chemical Laboratories". I'm sure that "Chemical Ali" was a big fan of Germany. American rained on Germany's parade when we took Saddam out. Sorry Stoeckl but your wonderful economy will have to suffer a little now that Saddam's gone.

Devin P.

it is impossible to enlighten you. You have proven over and over that you obsession with criticizing America, regardless of the facts, puts you out of the reach of reason. You will remain in the dark due to your own ignorance. You live in a country that doesn't have a free flow of information. You have a brain the is brainwashed by the propoganda the you embrace so well. You cannot and will not ever be "enlightened". I think it's great that you believe that Bush blew up the Twin Towers. I think it's great that you think that Bush woke up one morning and decided to invade Iraq on a personal whim. I think it's great that you have no clue what the connection between 9/11, UBL, Saddam and the invasion of Iraq is. After all, it is your ignorance and twisted "thinking" that keep this flame alive and well. Thank you Stoeckl for entertaining those of us who deal with the cold hard facts.

Devin P.

PS I hope that Bush doesn't have any nightmares about Germany when he goes to bed. I can't imagine what he might do the morning after!

the war on terrorism is all that needs to be said here.

i guesss the fact that three of the largest al qeida training camps were destroyes here in Iraq has slipped your mind huh....oh wait that was evidence that you didnt want to hear
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

According to all public accessible sources there had been found no connection of the Iraq to Al Queida.

I have never heard of such training camps in Iraq. Surely you can name a public accessible source where sceptics can look up?
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Stop pretending that the source matters one way or the other to you Stoeckl. Froggy, a guy who is living this whole mess, just gave you a firsthand account that three Al Qaeda training camps were found in Iraq, however, your blinders and anti-American mentality filter out the cold hard facts that don't support your agenda. An American soldier living in Iraq couldn't possibly be telling the truth, right Stoeckl? Are now you going to insult Froggy by calling him a liar? Or don't you have the guts to be that honest?

Devin P.

Stoeckl's post is dispicable! He has sunk to an all time low.

.. would have been the headlines in all medias. It would have been ointment on the wounded soul of George W.

Don't you think?

But... I don't recall such a headline.
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Your BS propaganda filled toilette paper would NEVER print something so positive about the U.S. and you know it. The only information that makes it out of Iraq is negative press, which is what sells. That's a proven fact! Do you think Froggy's previous posts describing all of those ecstatic Iraqi civilians were lies as well? You know JACK SQUAT about what is going on over there Stoeckl. So stop trying to act like you have inside information that you don't. Froggy is the BEST source of information this forum has seen yet!!! The more you try to discredit Froggy's posts, the more you prove what a blind Anti- American you really are. The truth means nothing to you...PERIOD! You abhor America and everyone in it. Of course you pretend to like the ones who buy your snakes don't you? You are pathetic.

Just because you happen to be in the dark, it doesn't mean that it's not true. You believe that Bush blew up the Twin Towers, so why would a disillusioned German like yourself have any clue about whether Al Qaeda training camps existed in Iraq? We have already established, due to the many fairy tales you've spewed here, that you have zero credibility. Your anti-American mentality further seals your fate as the guy who consistently has nothing rational to contribute. You've been washed up and spit out of this debate many times over Stoeckl. When will you realize that you are nothing more than a bad joke?

Devin P.

Where did I wrote that I believe that Bush blew up the twin towers? That's an imputation of someone who is apparently not capable of properly reading.

I posted the link and said that I don't know what to think about it. If your interpretation of this is that I believe Bush did it then that's your problem, not mine.

To Scotty:
Be honest, do you really believe that if there had been Al Queida training camps in Iraq the medias would conceal it?
There would surely be some "government friendly" medias who would print at least one line about it.

So please be kind enough and help me to find this line. I was not able to unearth something...

By the way: So far I NEVER sold a single boa into the U.S. or to a U.S. citizen. So there is no consideration needed from my side. I will carry on calling a spade a spade no matter if you'll like it or not.
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

"Where did I wrote that I believe that Bush blew up the twin towers?"

You didn't have to write it Stoeckl! The fact that that hideous garbage (link) made it's way to this forum only because of you was the first indication that you stood behind what the article said. The fact that not once have you stated that you DON"T THINK IT'S TRUE that Bush blew up the Twin Towers is another indication. The entire idiotic collection of moronic anti-American comments made by you on this forum, in conjuction with your evasive tendency to get your message across hiding behind someone else's trash, is another indication. Your reluctance to agree with ANYTHING positive, especially the obvious, regarding American and IRAQ, is an indication. You've painted a picture of yourself with your baseless and endless anti-American comments, and it would be a contradiction for you not to think that Bush blew up the Twin Towers. Sorry Stoeckl, but you are responsible for your own trash!

Devin P.

That's an imputation of someone who is apparently not capable of properly reading.

Where did I wrote that I believe that Bush blew up the twin towers? That's an imputation of someone who is apparently not capable of properly reading.

I posted the link and said that I don't know what to think about it. If your interpretation of this is that I believe Bush did it then that's your problem, not mine.

Still calling Froggy a liar, huh? And to answer your question, no, I don't believe they would print it. NO ONE has printed any of the positive aspects with regard to progress in crippling terrorism networks or the happiness of Iraqi civilians. Now, I've once again answered yet another question for you. Now start answering mine before you ask me any more. I have done my best to answer your questions, but every time I follow up with any questions of my own with regard to the subject matter YOU brought up, you tuck tail and run like a coward! Put up or shut up. Oh and by the way, maybe you didn't "sell" any snakes to Americans, maybe you did. But I'm sure you've acquired some from Americans. In any case, you wouldn't be on Kingsnake, an American site, if you had nothing to gain. NOW START ANSWERING SOME FRIGGIN QUESTIONS OR SHUT UP!

By the way Stoeckl, no legitimate news source ever printed your claim that Bush rigged the Twin Towers with explosives. The type of news sources that you rely on do not report things that justify American forces in Iraq. You may have to get out of that dreadful and dreary little country of yours in order to get a clue.

Devin P.

PS The National Inquirer reported today that Bio Chemical Labs were found in N. Korea by undercover American special forces. Evidence revealed that the paper trail for these Labs led investigators to German and French manufacturers. Care to comment Stoeckl? Can you disprove these reports?

So what you are saying is that someone in the field with first hand knowledge of what is really going on over there is lying, and YOUR sources are the truthful ones. You are truly something else. Does the truth piss you off that much when it benefits the Americans' cause? You have just made it clear that the truth is unacceptable if it is detrimental to your agenda. Thank you for once again revealing your creepdom by calling Froggy a liar. Shame on you! Your posts just sank from entertaining to insultingly ludicrous!

Don't act like you didn't read the questions which SteveAC was at least man enough to take a crack at. Are you going to ignore those questions like you have been throughout this whole discussion? Buk-bgawk! After all, they were originally directed at you in response to YOUR posts. You like to "hit and run" don't you? Don't worry, we all know you are incapable of answering such difficult questions. Buk-buk-buk...BGAWK!!!

there is stuff that is found and done here that is classified so you have no idea about whats going on and neither does the media. as far as the camps that was during the first part of the war i know i remember that. as far as al qaeda in iraq, come on down and see for yourself. yes they are here and yes they are a major threat thats all i can say about it. i really wish i could tell you more just to prove you wrong, but unforunately i cant cause that puts lives at risk. just please take my word on it they are here, they have been here the whole time and they arent going anywhere. i guess the fact that the majority of the ba'ath party members are also al qaeda, oh wait something else you didnt and wont hear about on the news

froggy
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The next time the shuttle lands, lets all get dressed up in ape suits and charge at the astronaughts yelling and ranting. That way they can try to figure out where they took a wrong turn.

Here's a real source of reliable information as opposed to your usual propoganda pipelines. Let's see how you ignore Froggy's first-hand account and put your own spin on the facts. You know Stoeckl, it's not too late for you to say the right thing here and say something like:"You know Froggy, you seem like a reasonable guy, you're living on the front line, you are there and I'm not, so I guess there really were/are Al Qaeda training camps in Iraq"? Is that so difficult Stoeckl?

Devin P.

He would rather be thrown into a pool full of Piranha than to agree with anything an American has to say.

He would rather post a link to an article that states that our CIA killed approx. 3,000 of our own, rather than agree with the extremely obvious well-known fact that UBL was the undisputed killer. He believes that Bush murdered his own people then blamed UBL! Ha Ha Stoeckl, you are like a comic strip character!

Devin P.

Well, you have outdone yourself, lol. I honestly don't know how to respond to that hilarious post. The "closed his eyes..." comment was beautiful, lol. If your statament where you said, and I quote, lol, "that's exactly the perception of the people outside of the U.S. how it came to this war", is in fact true, I really hope the other non-Americans on this forum confirm your theory so we can lay all of their credibilities to rest, LMAO! Come on people, let's hear who agrees with Herman on this one!!! I can't wait!

over the loss of Saddam.

Hang in there pal, maybe Germany can build a "high stone wall" around America to keep that evil Bush from sleepwalking again. Who knows, maybe Bush doesn't even remember attacking Iraq! he might have been sleeping!

Have you been taking your medication Stoeckl?

Devin P.

You wouldn't happen to be from Arkansas, would you, lol?

I think I'm supposed to be from Little Rock. Bill Clinton country!

Where's "sobek" by the way. Where is he hiding?

Devin P.

In the Middle East with the WMD, lol!

So far I haven't heard that Saddam is dead. I believe that in a few years when you need to leave Iraq due to economical reasons or due to the pressure of the public opinion he will crawl out beneath the stone where he is hiding now and take over again.

Fairy tale? I don't think so...
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Sorry, I couldn't resist. No offense.

There isn't anything you haven't missed Stoeckl. Regarding your hero, Saddam, you can only hope that he is alive and will be back someday. However, if he's lucky enough to have survived, I don't think he'll enjoy the medicine that his own people will be givibg him. By the way, have you taken your medication?

Devin P.

Your anti-American agenda has once again reared it's ugly head!

I heard that Germany asked Bush to bomb Iraq "out of the blue".

You know that we Americans are big fans of misguided Germans like you, so I'm sure Bush jumped right out of bed to do a favor you for lovely people.

Also, I think that Bush rigged the Twin Towers with explosives on 9/11 (probalbly 9/10) only because Germany asked him to do it.

Stoeckl, you are a genius!

Devin P.

Wow, I used to think you were a stand up guy, I enjoyed going to your very informative website also. I will never make the mistake of believing you are an intelligent person again! I cannot believe that you have the audacity to speak of the things you do! How stupid of you to insinuate that the president of the USA just woke up one morning and decided to go to war with Iraq! Gee, if it were up to you Hussein would still be in control there terrorizing his people, right? Murdering them! Yes there is a horrible problem in Korea but one evil dictator at a time just might be all we can handle! Trust me, we will take care of the Korean problem as well (with no help from your country either). I for one am proud to call the United States my home, and I am proud that my country stands up to evil dictators, remember WWII and Hitler???? Herman, what specifically is your country doing to fight terrorism?

PS. I bet you would change your tune if your country were attacked by terrorists and you lost your mother/sister/daughter to these MURDERERS. Then you and your country would be begging the US for help, right? And I am sure we would be there to help your ungrateful asses.
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Nicely put!

Devin P.