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Hey everyone,
At what age/weight can one breed a female CA Boa usually?

Depends on the animal, we have over 80 different pheno,s
and some are actual dwarf forms and right at 4' and nearing 15yrs of age.
We also have a few Hog Isle females just over 7' and 10 yrs of age.
Point is you will still rely on age more then size as a rule, folks do some crazy stuff these days to speed their quest for the all mighty dollar,careful what advise you choose to side with.

Well she's a pure CA blood, will be 3 years this coming season, a bit over 4 feet at the moment. Weighting 1300 grams.

Please forgive this lack of experience with the gram weight notations.
Never weighed a snake in better then 20 yrs.
? ? ?

If there's some other bit of information that can help, I'll try and provide it.
Usually, weight weight is the way to go when describing size.

I've seen that to be common with the few that I know
in the BP and BCI morph circus where litters and money
preceed all else.

Well obviously you're bitter since instead of giving an answer to a legitimate question, which tries to responsibly gauge as to whether or not a female is indeed ready for breeding without it having negative implications, you're implying that I, like "everyone" you know, do so for the money. Apparently keeping tabs on an animals' weight is no longer responsible husbandry but greedy husbandry?

Heck, snakes are not the best investment out there, let me tell you... and anyone with more than 1-2 years of experience will reach the same conclusion. Snakes pass away, litters don't pull through- a fracture of the people who actually these animals actually get to make a profit.

So... you're entitled to your opinion naturally, but that's not the purpose of the thread.

Didn't intend to imply anything,most any known
BCI/BCC in culture have a three year minimum on age.
Long tails out to 6yrs isnt unheard of.
Feed your animal 26 or less meals per year
and see what you have going into the third year.
Trying to pump it up with more food has no real benifits.
A snake in top lean mass condition will reproduce
and recover faster then a bloated breed sow,
not to mention live many years longer.

Actuallly I am an avid fan of "less is more". I feed females once every 14 days, at times even once every 21/30 days if the meal was substantial. CA Boas will probably have drastic health issues if power fed. SO, I asked if she's ready based on natural growth without without any intention of diverting from her feeding curriculum. So let's either focus on that or stop this (very assuming on your part) discussion.

Sorry that the hater of freedom, expressed his hateful opinion. I am not knowledgeable on CA's but many good people on this forum will be glad to help.

your question i assume is at what size as a minimum is it safe or possible to breed a C.A. boa. i have bred well over a dozen C.A. projects, this does not make me a great expert however I do have a track record and more so than 95% of people on this forum in terms of experience with them (C.A. Boas). In 2009 I successfully and safely bred a 4 year old Nicaraguan Hypo that was about as big as your wrist and 42-48 inches max. the litter was 9 babies 1 slug. Last year a Blood Boa at around 5 years of age and 4.5 foot also bred and produced 11 young and a few slugs. Many more, instances and no adverse results, I can also tell you I have bred Leopards, C.A. T of all sizes, weights and ages and what i found is they are very prolific and excellent at recovering from their litter. I also find that because the males dont get very big as little as 3 foot and fully mature, and dont eat much, they handle the food scarcity during breeding season very well, hardly losing any weight at all.

contrary to reptilere belief, there is no pot of gold at the end of a c.a. breeding project, your childs college tuition will not be paid nor will you put a down payment on an oceanview condo either. C.A. projects although can be lucrative require time, patience as any project and yield small litters many times no more than 12. average around 10.

Any other questions feel free to ask..

Edited on June 7, 2012 at 06:29:46 by PHFaust.

Hey Manny(we spoke before, how are you doing?),
I try to be erm... polite, I guess, when I post in a forum. I understand he has some history though and that I was the unfortunate victim of a snake troll? Oh well.

I might as well put a picture of the gal...

It is obvious that she is lean and mascular... she eats an adult rat once every 3-4 weeks. She was produced by EbN, a 2009'er, so come 2012 season, she'll be 3.5 years old, or 4 by the time she actually has a litter(God willing).

I love CA Boas because they are the same Boa(well, almost) in a smaller package. I'm not going to breed tons of animals anytime soon... I have a few pet projects I like and that's how it'll stay I think. It's for my personal enjoynment more than anything else.

So, you think I should skip this season and wait for the next? I will if it's for the best and she can end up being harmed.

shes looks a little on the small side, an medium rat every 10-2 weeks and lets look at her again in October. SHES GORGEOUS!!

Right,
We'll see how she's doing by October then.
The picture makes her a bit smaller than she really is, but I'm not going to have her breed unless I am POSITIVE she will pull through safely and without long term harm.

I would echo what Manny has said. I breed mainly CA boas (Nics, Sonoran's, El Salavadors, etc). Your female is certainly on the small size. She will likely produce a litter for you, but would benefit from another year. I hold my females until the 4th and sometimes 5th year until I attempt breeding. I do not weigh my animals, but can say that none have been smaller than 4ft and all eat large rats.

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth / Director USARK
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology

Sounds like solid advice.
Thank you,
I am definitely leaning towards waiting.

once more to make sure you see it:

There's an old saying that says "you cant fix stupid" and nothing is more fitting for what you just endured. Excuse me for not reading your post earlier, but i saw reptileretard on your thread and kept scrolling.

your question i assume is at what size as a minimum is it safe or possible to breed a C.A. boa. i have bred well over a dozen C.A. projects, this does not make me a great expert however I do have a track record and more so than 95% of people on this forum in terms of experience with them (C.A. Boas). In 2009 I successfully and safely bred a 4 year old Nicaraguan Hypo that was about as big as your wrist and 42-48 inches max. the litter was 9 babies 1 slug. Last year a Blood Boa at around 5 years of age and 4.5 foot also bred and produced 11 young and a few slugs. Many more, instances and no adverse results, I can also tell you I have bred Leopards, C.A. T of all sizes, weights and ages and what i found is they are very prolific and excellent at recovering from their litter. I also find that because the males dont get very big as little as 3 foot and fully mature, and dont eat much, they handle the food scarcity during breeding season very well, hardly losing any weight at all.

contrary to reptileretards belief, there is no pot of gold at the end of a c.a. breeding project, your childs college tuition will not be paid nor will you put a down payment on an oceanview condo either. C.A. projects although can be lucrative require time, patience as any project and yield small litters many times no more than 12. average around 10.

Any other questions feel free to ask..

Hey Manny(we spoke before, how are you doing?),
I try to be erm... polite, I guess, when I post in a forum. I understand he has some history though and that I was the unfortunate victim of a snake troll? Oh well.

I might as well put a picture of the gal...

It is obvious that she is lean and mascular... she eats an adult rat once every 3-4 weeks. She was produced by EbN, a 2009'er, so come 2012 season, she'll be 3.5 years old, or 4 by the time she actually has a litter(God willing).

I love CA Boas because they are the same Boa(well, almost) in a smaller package. I'm not going to breed tons of animals anytime soon... I have a few pet projects I like and that's how it'll stay I think. It's for my personal enjoynment more than anything else.

So, you think I should skip this season and wait for the next? I will if it's for the best and she can end up being harmed.

What till (if ever) you get to meet Manny in person.
He is bigger then life in real life,not a bad guy just abit over inflated
from many angles,again not a bad guy!!

Yes Manny we have met.

OK, I hope you've had your fill.
Now please stop leeching off of the thread, neither it nor I have any interest in endorsing your attempts to be heard.
I get it, you're a holier than thou breeder wannabe who is benefiting reptiles everywhere by merely existing and everyone else are greedy bastards.

Open your own thread and bother everyone there. Stalking a forum which you allegedly oppose does very little other than show that you have too much spare time on your hands.

I agree with everything Manny said for sure. although i am no expert i have bred a few CA boas, they are wonderful breeders and stay small. Best of luck and keep us posted!