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My/our BRB project

rascal_rascal_99 Jun 17, 2012 02:22 AM

I mentioned I would post and share what I'm thrilled to be working with, this is actually a joint project shared with a friend of mine, Tom Harbin.

First here's the missing piece of the puzzle for the project, the het hypo male that I picked up from Dave, who has been wonderful in helping out and answering all the questions I've had.

The hypo female, this girl is in the 5.5-6' long range

The het anery male

And lastly, the anery female...I don't doubt that some of you have girls just as big, but this girl to me is a monster, somewhere in the 6.5' range

Her the day I found them ovulating

Thanks for looking!
Charlie
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Replies (9)

waspinator421 Jun 17, 2012 09:31 AM

Wow!! That "Hypo" female is amazing! Looks an awful lot like a Ghost BRB to me. Whats the story behind her?
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

hyporainbowboas Jun 17, 2012 11:21 AM

That is a very light hypo. Very reduced color colpared to what I typically see. NICE.
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Bryan Hummel
www.rainbowboas.com

RainbowsByDesign Jun 17, 2012 12:40 PM

Great looking animals Charlie, best of luck producing some hypos.

Bryan, I think the super light look may be do to the camera. I is super hard to get an accurate representation of a BRBs colors. Here is an example;

This is one of my male hypos, Bam Bam. These pictures where taken the same day with the same lighting and camera. The only difference is the background.


You can see where something simple can have a profound effect on the way the snake looks.

John Wiseman

rainbowsrus Jun 17, 2012 01:03 PM

Great group of BRB's with tons of potential.

Question though, you left us hanging with:

"Her the day I found them ovulating"

Bred by the het Anery male?

And "them"??
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

curaniel Jun 17, 2012 01:46 PM

Wow, that hypo female is awesome! I can't wait to see what she produces!
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~Cynthia

"And in the spring, I shed my skin and it blows away with the changing wind..."

rascal_rascal_99 Jun 17, 2012 05:41 PM

First off, thank you everyone for all the compliments!

All I can really tell you about the hypo girl, is that she was produced by Sean Bradley of Exotics By Nature in 08 when Tom bought her as a baby...he raised her up until turning her over to me right around the end of last year. I do know he's told me that he's never given her any special treatment outside of normal brb care and fed her just like any other brazilian and never had any trouble out of her. The anery female and het anery male if I understand correctly were produced by Brian Sharp and purchased from him in the same year.

I totally get the problems with trying to catch true colors in pictures, I'm horrible at it more often than not (which is probably obvious by the two pictures I posted of the little male I picked up from Dave...which he actually looks like the nicer of the two pictures)...as for the color on the hypo girl though, I do think the picture I posted is pretty accurate of how she looks though. She is a very light, cream colored animal similar to the one in a post below by John. I'll post a couple more pics of her here though. She is more of an off white, manila envelope color with virtually no orange left at all. I do wonder what her natural color would be if she was not a hypo, and how the normal range of orange/red/brown colors convert over into the genetic morphs.

As for the "who/what" was bred, and I'll be totally honest here, hopefully ya'll don't flog me too hard or think bad of me for too long. Tom and I discussed things back in april and actually did consider trying to let the young het hypo male try to breed, that idea however went out the window when that night after work I found both the hypo and anery female both swollen up due to ovulating. Both of them were bred by the het anery male, when I had brought home the group we'd also discussed what to do about the hypo female and decided to go ahead and let her breed with him to produce hypo hets that are 50% poss het anery

rascal_rascal_99 Jun 17, 2012 05:57 PM

Because of breeding the hypo girl to the het anery male, for lack of an old enough het hypo male, we won't get to really see what kind of babies the hypo girl is capable of producing for probably another year. What to do with her litter this year has also made me do a lot of thinking, I'm anxious to see how many babies and especially how many females are in her litter. I would love to begin breeding in the direction of ghosts...so I'll have to put more thought into that once I see babies from her and decide what may be held back.

Did I miss answering anything anywhere?

For a few more pictures...

enjoying a soak with the het anery male

just her

waspinator421 Jun 18, 2012 08:44 AM

"with virtually no orange left at all"

This makes me wonder if she is one of those females that randomly goes through a change where they lose all the reddish/orange pigment. Normal BRBs that do this often appear Anery. If your Hypo female did this, that would explain why she looks like a Ghost BRB.
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

rascal_rascal_99 Jun 18, 2012 06:09 PM

I've wondered kind of the same thing. One of the things I remember bringing up and talking to Dave about was how do the different normal colors transfer over into a visual morph animal, although I don't think that's really known for sure...maybe it is and I'm just missing it, I'd be curious to hear other peoples thoughts on that though. My example to compare it to would be kenyan sand boa's where the most dirty'd up, what would generally be the darker lower quality animals actually show out as the hottest looking morphs. With ksb's though you have a lot more consistancy with coloring that you don't have with brb's since they can change so much in color as they grow up.

If you look at the last few pictures I posted up right above this, what you see around the hypo girls head and neck, is as much color as she has at all.

It will be fun to see what kind of normal colored babies she produces this year, and hopefully next year see what the hypo babies from her look like.

Charlie

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