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Recently these were posted on our forum(varanids) of kingsnakes kept in a method that allows them "choices". They are a very good example of what I have been talking about.
Again, I am going to link this, so those not interested do not have to follow the link. Also read the thread as there are more examples. Enjoy
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Except for the part where anyone said you can't do it that way, I liked that setup. That nesting method, the Franks care sheet way, is really cool. I love the tunnels they make too, that makes it fun for the keeper to see. As for relationships and bonding, I'm more interested in the nesting and routine thing, the natural behaviors. Cool!
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
I wonder why you can't just like the good stuff, burrows, holes, temps choices, etc etc. and not worry about the other.
You do know that bonding is a product of time and experience. If you set young snakes up in a way, they can be snakes, like the cages you just saw, you "may" observe, if your lucky, some individuals showing a perference for other individuals. Even to a point that when one is removed from the cage, the other goes nuts and crawls and crawls until you put its cagemate back. You see sir, its about creating a situation where it can occur, then observing it, as it builds.
ITs also REQUIRED that you have some experience with BEHAVIOR, as then you would understand you cannot take an individual snake thats been all its life in solitary confinement and put it with another and SEE BONDING. WHat you will see is cannibilism.
AGain behavior is about EXPERIENCE and genetics and time. Bonding is something BUILT. its that way with people too. Cheers
I like all the good stuff, I find it interesting and agreed with what you said. I just have certain feelings about certain things.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
Gerard, hows it going. You say, "I have certain feelings about things". Its funny you say that, because that too is normal behavior. We all have certain feelings about things. In most cases those feelings have a base or origin.
In this case, bonding, until you actually HAVE REAL experiences with that, you will never understand and there is no way you could.
What your doing is being judgemental. Your judging something without attempting to learn if its real or not. WHich is exactly how progress is held back. So if thats what you want, its your CHOICE. hahahahahahahaha
Have a great day Some stuff I found last night
I'm not judging anymore, only speaking for myself, I enjoyed that post. I really liked that milk setup and will be trying that with some kings, not the bonding, just the setup. Is that a senticolis? Santa Ritas?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
So obviously some of the tigers have had their babies already....in June? And before the rains?
Kerby...
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Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.
Nice Senticolis triaspis intermedia........I'd bet it's a Pajarito or Santa Rita?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
I'm getting another pair of Santa Ritas this year.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>I'm getting another pair of Santa Ritas this year.
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>>Gerard
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>>"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
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>>www.livebaitclip.com
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>>GONE FISHING!!!
I may too....my buddy Toby breeds them......
I wish there were more mutabilis in the country....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
I like when people make an effort to give their snakes an interesting habitat with lots of tactile opportunities.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.
>>I like when people make an effort to give their snakes an interesting habitat with lots of tactile opportunities.
Me too!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Awesome setup. Thanks for the link.
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