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New Hognose Morph??

jrleonard72 Jun 24, 2012 09:44 AM

Soooooo, my fiance and I recently got into the hobby of breeding hognose snakes. In 2011, we started out with two females that we purchased at a local pet shop (one that appeared to be a normal western, and the other that appeared to be a green morph). About a month later, we traded the normal female at a reptile show for a normal male.

After cooling them for a few months over the winter, we decided to let them have a "go" at breeding. In April 2012, the female had a clutch of 20 eggs. We put the eggs aside and waited...

Just a couple days ago, the eggs began to hatch (BTW, only half the eggs survived). The attached picture is what the babies look like.

Over the weekend, we took them to the reptile show to let our friends look at, and everyone seemed to be impressed by what we produced and they were eager to buy them. However, they were also baffled as to what the "morph" was.

So now we are posting them here to get opinions on what the morph may be. We've decided to hold a couple back for future breeding projects and to see if we can prove the morph that we are producing. We haven't sold any yet, but we may end up posting some online after we are sure they are eating well.

We also hope to have more eggs soon, since the pair that we have are continuing to breed!

Let us know what you think.

Enjoy!

Jeff
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Replies (13)

cochran Jun 24, 2012 10:26 AM

Wow! I'm not a hognose person but that is incredible whatever it is!! Jeff

jrleonard72 Jun 24, 2012 11:06 AM

Thank you, I agree!! It appears that all the ones hatched have this trait, so hopefully we'll get something very solid from our pair!

jrleonard72 Jun 24, 2012 12:51 PM

Here's a pic of the entire clutch:

http://www.jeffersonleonard.com/hognose_clutch.gif

Let me know what you think
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Hognosedude11 Jun 24, 2012 03:09 PM

pics of parents!!!!!!

Gregg_M_Madden Jun 24, 2012 03:23 PM

I will take one or two when you are ready to let some go. They look like some really crazt tigers.

ddodge Jun 24, 2012 04:02 PM

If I was to guess, I'ld say they were going to look something like this as adults. Carefull not to sell yourself short and congrats!

daneby Jun 24, 2012 11:00 PM

AWESOME! Big congrats on those!

Dan Eby

hogboy Jun 25, 2012 09:46 AM

Outstanding result, Congrats
What colour are their bellies ?

markg Jun 25, 2012 04:24 PM

What you said about 10 eggs not making it.. were they good to start or bad to start? If they were good (meaning fertile) at the start, then something about the incubation was not right, and this could also produce pattern aberrations. Hopefully, it turns out that the patterns are inherited and not caused by incubation conditions.

roadrunnerbeep Jun 25, 2012 06:53 PM

You know you are serving free drinks at an AA meeting.
I'm weak sell me a pair.
beepbeep

HerpZillA Jun 29, 2012 12:19 AM

I imagine that is what you said the first time you saw them.

Those are fricken cool
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Thanks for reading.
Tom

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jrleonard72 Jun 30, 2012 11:40 AM

Just wanted to post an update, and answer a few of the questions... The bellies are nearly solid black, with slight hints of grey. As for the incubation, they were incubated well, so I think the eggs that did not survive may have been infertile. We've heard that a clutch of 20 eggs is kind of high, so I imagine that some of the eggs weren't fertile since this was the first clutch of the season.

As for the survivors, all are doing fine so far. JA01, JA04, and JA07 have all eaten a f/t unscented small pinkie mouse. The others we are just being patient with and will try feeding again in a couple days, and may try some sort of scent (sardines, salmon, etc.).

We're not sure how many (if any) we will keep, but we've gotten some pretty decent offers. I will post here when/if we decide to sell, but feel free to send an offer. When we decide to let some go, we will either take the best offer/trade deal, or just come up with a set price.

Thank you to all who have posted.

Jeff L.

nearhoofm Jul 01, 2012 08:01 PM

Sometimes incubation temps play a factor but who knows. I produced what I named mosaics 3 years ago and still have not reproduced them although some have a different look. It would be cool if proven genetic. I would be interested in a pair though to see what happens. Email me when you decide on a price at
Nearhoofreptiles@yahoo.com

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