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Some photos of our trip.......
We found one nice Desert King north of Terlingua, TX but she is in shed....I will get pics of her up soon.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
BTW.....
San Diego, CA
Arizona
New Mexico
& West Texas
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Do you ever make it by presidio county, over in the west?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>Do you ever make it by presidio county, over in the west?
Yep...I went up the river road from Terlingua to Presidio.....
Only one atrox and a bunch of frogs.....a few whiptails I didn't have a camera for.......No alterna, but I'm headed back in August......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Interesting, I'm going to email you something.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
Great post, John. Are those Ravens inside the cliff on the 4th picture down? The long nose picture is really cool, and the whip tail with all the blue on his face is really cool.
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>>Great post, John. Are those Ravens inside the cliff on the 4th picture down? The long nose picture is really cool, and the whip tail with all the blue on his face is really cool.
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Those are actually Hawks of some sort....or Turkey Vultures....
They were taken at Eagle's Nest Creek in Western Val Verde County.
BTW...I kept the light colored longnose and the blue whiptail (for scenting)......
I hope that longnose snakes will become popular in the hobby one day.....they are so lampropeltine like.......cool snakes IMHO.
I have an anery male on the way this year as well as a female from the same locale.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Those are actually Hawks of some sort....or Turkey Vultures....
They were taken at Eagle's Nest Creek in Western Val Verde County.
That is even cooler. Its hard to tell in a picture.
Yeah, the Long nosed snakes are pretty cool. Just holding them, they feel like kingsnakes. There's some aberrant ones out there too. Here's a picture of a hypo.
261129OF94czzY by RossAZ480, on Flickr
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Wow!,.that thing is really reduced a bunch!
Did you find that one, or did someone else?
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
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Someone posted it on FHF about 6 years ago. Its the only one I know of.
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....I figured it might have come from someone over there..
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Cool hypo...
I remember Don Shores working with some banded, striped and aberrant "claris" phase long nose snakes from AZ one year.
Those claris phase animals had red eyes still....
The anery I'm getting has gray eyes....
Here's a typical one from West Texas (Terrell Co.)
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
That anery is absolutely killer!
They sure do look very "Lampropeltis"- like!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
>>Yeah, AZ is where all the aberrants come from. They've posted some over on FHF over the years. That's cool you are getting an anery. I like those. One guy found an anery in SD Co. California a few years ago. Here it is.
Awesome.....
I think I remember seeing those photos a few years ago.....
I am going to get that anery male and breed him to a female from his locale and try to get some locality hets going next year......
Great...more lizard eaters to get on f/t European fancy mice...LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
LOL Good thing for you, you have experience with lizard eaters. Sounds like a very cool project.
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I have kept longnoses from different areas and some areas the W/C longnses eat mice from the get go. I Have found the same with glossys. Also I hatched several clucthes of Glossys and the neonates all ate pinks without scenting...Again I think it dpends what area they come from as some come from areas that are more lizard eating and are hard to get them on mice. But to me, the Glossys were very similar to ratsnakes. I think that CB or captive bred Glossys would be no different in ratsnakes or kings in feeding. Basically darn easy captives to keep and raise.
With Longnoses I used to collect a bunch in one nght and put mice in with them. The ones that ate I kept and the ones that didn't i would release the following week.
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"2. How many eggs could a 20 inch king even make, if even possible? Remember, they have lungs, a stomach, etc,
Billy (DISCERN)
Just a thought...
did you see a lot of mice crossing the road at night where you found the Longnose? I wonder if those areas witth lots of mice on the roads at night make a difference between some being hard core lizard eaters and recognizing mice as a food source in captivity.
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"2. How many eggs could a 20 inch king even make, if even possible? Remember, they have lungs, a stomach, etc,
Billy (DISCERN)
The longnose snakes we find in Texas are similar.
It seems the younger ones can be switched over to mice easier than the older ones. But mice can be found on road cuts even near alterna and the wc alterna can be difficult to get on mice....
I have 3 wild caught longnose currently. Only one eats f/t unscented mice but he took some lizards first then scented then live....
The other two are eating anoles but I've only had one a week now and the other a month....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Man, that;s a killer comparison shot there Ross with them there side by side. Very blue hue as one would expect to see in an axanthic too.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
That mutant on the right would probably best termed an axanthic though, rather than anerythrictic because it is completely lacking BOTH colors (red and yellow and any orange), and also has the very blue-ish hue.
This also correlates perfectly with many sites regarding pigment cells and what they are responsible in producing. Here is just one portion that pertains to this very issue.
Xanthophores - contain two major pigment bodies the pterinosomes containing pteridines and vesicles that contain fats with stored carotenoids. Another class of organelle may exist in which the pteridines are converted to drosopterins and some people have suggested the name drosopterinosome. However, since drosopterins are made from pteridines, this may be a bit of a splitter attitude, and really may not be valid. But it cannot be denied that yellow pteridine rich cells occur within microns of orange or red drosopterin rich cells, so there may be something to the separation. At any rate, xanthophores can be divided into at least two subtypes.
Yellow xanthophores - contain organelles called pterinosomes that are pterinidine rich and range from creamy yellow to orange. Since these cells are yellow to yellow orange and the term xanthophore can apply to the red xanthophores as well, there is a good argument to refer to this subtype as luteophores, but that term has yet to catch on.
Red xanthophores (erythrophores) - pterinosomes (drosopterinosomes) are rich in drosopterins which range from orange to red and even violet. These cells are more easily seen on histology than their yellow counterparts and can be seen in the pictures at the top of this page.
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
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Yeah, you are right about that. The normal version does appear to have a creamy yellowish look to the background. Those snakes were found and photographed by Frank Trujillo.
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Exactly Ross!,.....the light creamy yellow is TOTALLY absent. If the snake's natural color scheme ONLY involved reds, then it would be an anery, but since it also involves the light creamy yellow background as well, it is far more accurately termed an axanthic.
Good eye dude!. You are apparently comprehending these small (but extremely important) details very well.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Well, you helped me with that answer. Thanks! I wish I knew what happened with that hypo. I'd love to find one like that.
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Yeah, that hypo was smokin' man!...wow!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Man, that is some interesting habitat there, John. Some very cool pics as well. I'll bet some of those lizards were like little "lightning bolts" as the temps got warmer..LOL!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
>>Man, that is some interesting habitat there, John. Some very cool pics as well. I'll bet some of those lizards were like little "lightning bolts" as the temps got warmer..LOL!!
Thanks....And yes it was well in triple digits and they were FAST as all get out....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
"yes it was well in triple digits and they were FAST as all get out"
HAHA!!....yep!..
I like the cute way lizards look up and back at you as if to almost say .."WTF are you looking at?, you don't have a chance of catching me, bud"..LOL!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Yeah...the Greater Earless Lizards were doing "push ups" and flaring their red throats at me.......Like I was an intruder or something.....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
LOL!, yeah, that's too funny!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
serpentinespecialties.webs.com
Very cool John! I bet that was a blast!
I have got to get out there someday!
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Genesis 1:1
>>Very cool John! I bet that was a blast!
>>I have got to get out there someday!
Thanks Billy....
It was a blast.....I dread going back to work Monday....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Some great shots there John. Looks like it was a good trip even though it had to be fricken HOT!
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>>Some great shots there John. Looks like it was a good trip even though it had to be fricken HOT!
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It was perfect in San Diego. 75 for a high in the daytime......It didn't get hot until we hit southeastern CA then NM and AZ....Dry hot though...nothing like it is at home.....LOL
West Texas wasn't bad at all.....it was in the high 60s and low 70s at night when we were out......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
I love the Rocky scenery! We don't have hardly any rocks here in Florida. The animal pics were cool too, love the long nose snake. The race runners look similar to the ones we have here.
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Disclaimer: I do keep several snakes in pairs, and some in groups. However I realize that things can go wrong, and I have to keep a close eye on those groups, to be sure they are not being adversely affected by these living conditions. Also if one happens to eat it's cagemate, it is 100% my fault, and I know the risks in advance!
What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com
>>I love the Rocky scenery! We don't have hardly any rocks here in Florida. The animal pics were cool too, love the long nose snake. The race runners look similar to the ones we have here.
We don't have that many rocks here in South Texas either so I know what you mean...the scenery west of San Antonio is killer.
Most of those lizards in the pics are whiptails except for the sceloporus on the brick wall, the SD alligator and the Greater Earless ones.....
We call our local striped lizards racerunners too but the accepted common name is whiptails I've been told....LOL
The are all Aspidoscelis formerly Cnemidophorus....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
sounds like a fun trip!
love the alligator lizard and habitat shots best
any sd zoo pics? how was their reptile house?
,,,,,,,,thomas
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???
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>>sounds like a fun trip!
>>love the alligator lizard and habitat shots best
>>any sd zoo pics? how was their reptile house?
I have some zoo pics....I will get some up soon....
There reptile house was "okay"....Nothing like FW's MOLA exhibit but maybe better than the SA & Houston zoo, I think.....maybe.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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