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Again this gene proves to be co dominant.
The father to this clutch is a Black phase and the mother is a Hypo-E......

This is definitely a Hypo-E......
I hope I get a female from this pairing to go with my male from last year.......

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Those are awesome. For some reason, this reminds me of Rainer going on vacation as soon as a good point is made. hahahahah

No, but seriously, that is a very cool project you have there. You'll have to post more photos when they are out.
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>>Those are awesome. For some reason, this reminds me of Rainer going on vacation as soon as a good point is made. hahahahah
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>>No, but seriously, that is a very cool project you have there. You'll have to post more photos when they are out.
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Thanks Ross....and yeah, Rainer seems to only listen to what he wants to hear/read......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

>>>>Those are awesome. For some reason, this reminds me of Rainer going on vacation as soon as a good point is made. hahahahah
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>>>>No, but seriously, that is a very cool project you have there. You'll have to post more photos when they are out.
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>>Thanks Ross....and yeah, Rainer seems to only listen to what he wants to hear/read......LOL
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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Very nice John. Those are cool. Glad for your success!

--Dennis

>>Very nice John. Those are cool. Glad for your success!
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>>--Dennis

Thank you Dennis....
I saw some of your success as well this year....
Congrats!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

So a hypo-E Mex bred to any Mex will produce Hypo-E babies?
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Disclaimer: I do keep several snakes in pairs, and some in groups. However I realize that things can go wrong, and I have to keep a close eye on those groups, to be sure they are not being adversely affected by these living conditions. Also if one happens to eat it's cagemate, it is 100% my fault, and I know the risks in advance!

What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

>>So a hypo-E Mex bred to any Mex will produce Hypo-E babies?

Here's all I know to date.....

I bred a Black Phase Male that is not from the Hypo-E line to a Visual Hypoerythristic female two years in a row.

Both years a Hypoerythristic hatched......So far it acts codominant when using a female hypo-e and a non hypo-e male.

I need to breed the Hypo-E male to the Hypo-E female and to a normal female to see what emerges.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Hopefully a Hypo-E x Hypo-E breeding will not produce a white snake like we've seen with other morphs of other snakes. Something with a more interesting color and/or pattern would be awesome. Good work John. Let's see more later when they all come out.
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I agree Jonel.....

Eventually there will be a little pink snake hatch out of every kingsnake clutch that'll grow up to be white.....

Then how will we know what's what....lol

Thanks Jonel....
I will post some more photos soon....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Is the black phase the melanistic? The hypo-E is a cool moron too, is the melanistic recessive or codom?
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Gerard

"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "

www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

>>Is the black phase the melanistic? The hypo-E is a cool moron too, is the melanistic recessive or codom?
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No...Black Phase is similar to dark alterna....
They are line bred by Mother Nature in the wild.
A naturally occurring polymorphic trait.

The Black Phase gene acts just like a line bred trait.
When bred to other Black Phase they produce dark babies that turn black. When bred to light gray mex mex they produce inbetweeners.

Here is a black phase Male Mex Mex:

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

He called your hypo E a moron.
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>>He called your hypo E a moron.
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LOL...I saw that but I know he's on an iPad.....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

They need to fix those. lol
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>>They need to fix those. lol
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Why?...they are "smart".......hahahaha
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

>>>>They need to fix those. lol
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>>Why?...they are "smart".......hahahaha
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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hahaha

Is it the automatic spell check that does that?
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I hate that some times, try typing herps in. After you use it for awhile it's really hard to type on a normal computer.
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Gerard

"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "

www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

>>I hate that some times, try typing herps in. After you use it for awhile it's really hard to type on a normal computer.
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Yeah...I texted my buddy to ask if he wanted to go field herpes with me....
He said Hell No but I will go catch some reptiles with ya....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

"The hypo-E is a cool moron too"
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Disclaimer: I do keep several snakes in pairs, and some in groups. However I realize that things can go wrong, and I have to keep a close eye on those groups, to be sure they are not being adversely affected by these living conditions. Also if one happens to eat it's cagemate, it is 100% my fault, and I know the risks in advance!

What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

I guess I'm the moron, cause that's what this line is about, lol. That's what I get for jumping around, and skipping over posts!
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Disclaimer: I do keep several snakes in pairs, and some in groups. However I realize that things can go wrong, and I have to keep a close eye on those groups, to be sure they are not being adversely affected by these living conditions. Also if one happens to eat it's cagemate, it is 100% my fault, and I know the risks in advance!

What's wrong with using CAUTION?!?!?!
King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
~ Jorge Sierra www.SierraSnakes.com

Damn, that combo is going to be sick! Cool stuff, the melanistics are still my favorite.
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Gerard

"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "

www.livebaitclip.com

GONE FISHING!!!

>>Damn, that combo is going to be sick! Cool stuff, the melanistics are still my favorite.
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The melanistics are thayeri not mex mex......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Congrats John!! Hope you get a female as well man. You know I have always liked the look of those. Good luck bro.

Joe

>>Congrats John!! Hope you get a female as well man. You know I have always liked the look of those. Good luck bro.

Thanks Joe.....
They keep me interested......lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...