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My new king snake

Jodrock Aug 21, 2012 08:32 AM

So i pick this guy up with a pair of bull snakes. guy said the breder told him it is a albino lavender. Lets hear what you guys think.
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RossPadilla Aug 21, 2012 09:11 AM

Its hard to tell by that picture. It looks like it might be a Lavender albino. The eyes should be a ruby red for a Lavender albino, and the light scales a light lavender as an adult. An adult albino will have lighter eyes, more like pink, and the light scales a whitish color.
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AaronBayer Aug 21, 2012 09:23 AM

It's hard to tell because the picture is a little dark, but I think it is a normal albino.

I suggest using google to check out both albino and lavender king pictures and seeing which yours is. If both are side by side, it's pretty easy to tell the difference.

herpholics Aug 21, 2012 05:25 PM

Agree. Looks normal albino with a highway pattern to me
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DMong Aug 21, 2012 08:40 PM

Yeah, even with the dark photo, if it were a lavender it would also be darker as well. looks like a t-negative amel to me too. I don't see anything "highway" about it's pattern though, but it is a nice looking one...

Here is a super example of a "highway" morph on Ross Padilla's Cal. king site:

~Doug
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herpholics Aug 22, 2012 05:40 PM

Ok doug... Ill bite. If that is a highway what is this?

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herpholics Aug 22, 2012 05:41 PM

Same Clutch...

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DMong Aug 22, 2012 07:30 PM

The top right snake is a "broken stripe" morph. The others are basically more barred and broken barred morphs. What did the the parents look like?

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herpholics Aug 22, 2012 08:17 PM

The female was a broken bar stripe albino? Much like the pic of the albino of the begining of this thread. The male was a normal looking banded cal king
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DMong Aug 22, 2012 10:08 PM

......cool!. Yeah, those Cal. kings can sure produce a medley of different phenotypes from all sorts of different looking parents..

~Doug
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DMong Aug 22, 2012 07:22 PM

It's what's known as a "barred" morph. There are locales in Newport-Long Beach, San Diego County, Orange County, San Bernardino County, and Riverside County that look like that. There are mixed phenotypes too that can have characteristics of bars, incomplete bars, and dashes, etc.. as well. I have no idea if yours is locale-specific or not, but that is what the phenotype is called........cool snake!

~Doug
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herpholics Aug 22, 2012 08:21 PM

I like it... Jorge called it a dot dash? I lost the most unusual looking one of the clutch unfortunatly. I did get an almost perfect highway though. Ross in fact did comment on that. Never heard of the name before then. They can be seen on facebook. Check em out and send me a request if u have an account.
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DMong Aug 22, 2012 10:37 PM

Yeah, it's too bad you lost a real nice one, but cool that you produced a sweet "highway" morph.

Well, different people call different things different names, but something like this one I would consider more of a "dot-dash" morph. They are basically broken'stripers that have different sized spacing between the breaks giving the dots and dashes. Some can be perfectly round-dotted and long dashed right down the very center, which is probably the most revered phenotype.

Here is a very cool one as well, even though it's markings aren't perfectly symmetrical down the very center.

~Doug
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herpholics Aug 23, 2012 06:39 PM

That is nice.. I have two like that. the stripes down the bottom center seem to be almost perfect white-black-white. I cant tell if that one is like that or not? The nice thing about the one from the pic above is that the side pattern sort of melds into the top in some spots when viewed from the side. Is the mosiac the result of selective breeding from morphs like these?

BTW the two sick snakes are doing fine. Took down there second rat Fuzzies since the treatment. At what point do you resume heavy/ normal feeding?
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DMong Aug 23, 2012 07:06 PM

That is nice.. I have two like that. the stripes down the bottom center seem to be almost perfect white-black-white. I cant tell if that one is like that or not? The nice thing about the one from the pic above is that the side pattern sort of melds into the top in some spots when viewed from the side. Is the mosiac the result of selective breeding from morphs like these?

BTW the two sick snakes are doing fine. Took down there second rat Fuzzies since the treatment. At what point do you resume heavy/ normal feeding?

Very cool. That was just a nice example I found on the net, not my own. I am not real sure if you are talking about the more recent "mozaics" like what Aubrey of "Slipstream" is producing, or the naturally-occurring aberrant mosaic types that are also captive-bred Newport-Long Beach phenotypes and other mixed combinations of phenotypes. I'm not real sure what the precise lineage was on the first, more recently available "mosaics" though. Those are sort of a personal interpretation too, as they can also vary quite a bit just like many of the other phenotypes. Some of the more recent "mosaics" look to involve a heavy banded king influence that has the bands missing on the top of the dorsal area, but you can see lots of remnant band patterning on the lower sides with a few having some spots and odd blotches here and there on the back too.

~Doug
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DMong Aug 23, 2012 07:12 PM

Forgot about the other question you asked..LOL!

Awesome that they are doinf =g much better after thr treatment. Well, as I mentioned before, I would wait for about 10 or more days AFTER the last treatment, then after that offer a few smaller meals maybe 5 days in between for a couple times to make darn sure all seems well, then you could gradually up the size a bit for another couple feedings. If all went well after all those, as long as the temps can support the proper digestion, you could then get back to good full-sized meals.

good luck with it, and I'm glad they seem much better now. Hope they stay on the right track..

~Doug
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Jodrock Aug 23, 2012 12:42 PM

The new pgoto might help out more but the eyes are ruby red like you sad. i will take more photes tonight with a good cam.
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RossPadilla Aug 23, 2012 05:23 PM

That looks more like a normal albino. The eyes of a lav albino and an albino might be closer in shade than I believe. I've only seen photos, so the flash probably makes the albinos look pink, but in normal light they are probably red. The Lavender albino does have darker eyes though.
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