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from 2010. This was the ugly duckling of the litter but often with BCC they turn out the best. This one is gold with red side medallions and a big red tail which was almost a red & yellow ladder. Maybe next generation.

Very nice Mike!!!

Take care,

Kevin

That is a lovely example of a guyana. That will stay light well into adulthood, unlike the purple guyana's I see posted every so often. Thanks for sharing.

You manage to take a jab at purple Guyana’s every time you get a chance. I’m curious have you ever actual owned a Guyana for more than five years? I can’t help but think someone wouldn’t sell you one and you are doing what you can to put misinformation out there. My suggestion is not to be bitter and try to only post positive comments.

Thank you,

Kevin

Me bitter? I thought my comments were positive. I complimented the guy on his pretty guyana. I just gave my opinion that purple guyanas have a tendency to get dark with age. I take it you have one of those purple boas? In the future I'll keep my opinions to myself. How's that? Are we good now?

>>Me bitter? I thought my comments were positive. I complimented the guy on his pretty guyana. I just gave my opinion that purple guyanas have a tendency to get dark with age. I take it you have one of those purple boas? In the future I'll keep my opinions to myself. How's that? Are we good now?

Here's the issue... CLEARLY you have an axe to grind. Let me share the proof...

Your post yesterday
You stated: "That will stay light well into adulthood, unlike the purple guyana's I see posted every so often."

Your post on August 17th
You stated: "That should stay nice and light well into adulthood unlike the purple guyana's I see posted every so often."

Your post on July 30th
You stated: "That one should stay light well into adulthood, unlike the purple guyanas I see posted every now and then."

Three posts that are almost identical (and insulting to those with animals like those - wish I had some, but I don't) and COMPLETELY out of thin air (no purple animal was posted). Like I said, it seems like you have an axe to grind.

So how about you go ahead and lay ALL your cards on the table. Get it out of your system. Take your canned "That one should stay light well into adulthood, unlike the purple guyanas I see posted every now and then" statement and copy and paste it 7,000 times in one thread if it'll make you feel better about whatever inadequacy you've experienced in your personal collection with purple Guyanese BCC. And heck, while you're at it, go ahead and share the details of the large number of purple Guyanese you've had so that we can all understand once and for all that purple Guyanese are always, and without exception, dark as adults.

Or, you could keep your uninformed/negative opinions to yourself. Yeah, perhaps you had the right idea.
jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com Site received a complete makeover! Check it out!

Jonathan,

Considering your one of the foremost guyana boa breeders in the world, can you please explain your comments below. Your comment regarding purple guyana's is particularly troubling.

With your vast knowledge and experience you really need to explain to your customers and loyal followers why you would make such statements. My only guess would be that there's some truth to what you're saying.

"As for your question about older boas. I have a couple of theories. One is that older boas are generally darker and "uglier" and hence, don't get shown off much...."

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showth...ghlight=darker

"Finally, I realize that EVERY SINGLE BOA darkens with age to some degree or another. But I try to buy animals that, in my best guess, won't be dark brown or black...."

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showth...ht=dark&page=2

"That's boas for you! They all darken and yellow/brown up to a degree, it's just a matter of how much. I think the VAST majority turn pretty brown, it's only the select few that don't turn as brown. That's why I usually buy for contrast and pattern - you can't guarantee they won't brown up".

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showth...ht=boas darken

"In my experience with BCC's, the purple animals tend to darken a LOT as adults".

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showth...ghlight=darken

This is my final reply to you. I anxiously await your reply

ChrisErica
Link

Here are the links:

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showthread.php?t=15412&highlight=dark&page=2

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showthread.php?t=13520&highlight=darker

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showthread.php?t=19867&highlight=boas darken

http://www.reptileinsider.com/showthread.php?t=11645&highlight=darken

This isn't about me and my experience, this is about you and your lack of it as well as your insults.
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com Site received a complete makeover! Check it out!

So, the baby's asleep and I'm awake, and I have a few minutes to address your outdated (the newest is 2.5 yrs old, the oldest is 4.5 yrs old) & out of context quotes.

Keep in mind that your quotes are all within the last 2 months, are obviously intentionally inflammatory (trolling, IMO), & not backed up by any level of actual hands-on experience.

>>"As for your question..."

This quote from over 4 yrs ago was CLEARLY taken out of context for your use. This thread doesn't refer to Guyanese BCC AT ALL. It refers to BOAS as a whole. The OP asked why older boas don't get shown on the forum much because he had heard that 1/2 of all imported boas have IBD. I stated that as boas age, they usually darken. That's true. Compare any baby to it's adult version & the colors are darker.

>>"Finally, I realize that..."

This quote from 4.5 years ago was also CLEARLY taken out of context. Again, this wasn't referencing purple GUYANESE BCC, it was boas in general. The OP asked what people look for in a project. Several people posted really good "checklist" items & I added 8 items to the list. This was the last. And you left out the end: "I've seen some VERY dark animals that I find attractive, but for the purposes of my very small collection, I want animals that stay a shade lighter than average."

>>"That's boas for you! They all darken and yellow/brown up to a degree, it's just a matter of how much...".

More of the same from you. Old and out of context. NO reference to Guyanese BCC specifically, just "boas".

>>"In my experience with BCC's, the purple animals tend to darken a LOT as adults".

This one from 4.5 years ago is about all you've got. I had a LOT less experience then than I do now. I had 2 BCC that were purple and dark. In the other post, I shared 2 that are purple and light. Also, I've met a LOT more people, seen a LOT more collections, produced a LOT more animals, and RAISED several more PURPLE boas. My opinion has changed (as they should with time/experience). The vast majority don't darken a LOT - some do though. Pretty much like any other boa.

So there ya go. Even though your post had basically no merit, I addressed your concerns EASILY while battling exhaustion and sleep deprivation. Now, quietly disappear back under the bridge.

jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com Site received a complete makeover! Check it out!

Sure, sure Jonathan, whatever you say. It sure sounds like a little backtracking to me. It's called damage control? You would have made a great politician.

If you're so confident in your past experiences why even reply back to me? Why do you feel the need to prove anything to little old me? Or are you trying to save face?

As for battling exhaustion and sleep deprivation you need to relax and take a few deep breaths and always remember the truth will set you free.

>>Sure, sure Jonathan, whatever you say. It sure sounds like a little backtracking to me. It's called damage control? You would have made a great politician.
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>>If you're so confident in your past experiences why even reply back to me? Why do you feel the need to prove anything to little old me? Or are you trying to save face?
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>>As for battling exhaustion and sleep deprivation you need to relax and take a few deep breaths and always remember the truth will set you free.
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com Site received a complete makeover! Check it out!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"This is my final reply to you" Posted by ChrisErica on 9/5/12

"the truth will set you free." Posted by ChrisErica as he replied on 9/9/12

If YOU were truthful you wouldn't have posted again on this thread.

I'm still waiting to see you Guyana collection? How about ANY BCC???? You have never owned a BCC have you? Do you even own any boa of any kind? You make repeated inflammatory trolling comments attacking purple Guyana’s. If you did actually own a boa of any kind you would see they ALL change in appearance over time. Neither JB or I prefer dark boas, but guess what - there are people out there that do!!!

Here is a thought - get off you chair and walk away from your only experience with boas (your computer monitor)and get a boa. Wait - I left a few things out. First - read some books on boa husbandry. Second - buy a habitat that is suitable for boas (remember - they will grow). Third - go to your local pet store and buy a boa. Then after keeping that boa alive for more than six months please come back and share your experience with us.

Bye! I don't like feeding trolls so this is the last time I'll post on this thread.

Ok Kev, you got me on the last reply thing, so you're a lot little smarter than Jonathan.

Jonathan,

Why didn't you get me on that? It was the perfect setup.

Here are some of pics of my Guyanas. Now please some me some pics of your BCC.

How you tell me which ones are that dark ugly purple you love to talk about.

Have a nice day.

Kevin

Ovulating for her second litter

Ovulating for her third litter

ChrisErica, how many litters of Guyanese have you produced? Nevermind that, how many Guyanese do you have?

This is the same female, after 3 litters and at 11 years old (if you didn't know, females becoming gravid, gestating, and delivering generally dramatically darkens their colors so after three litters - I think she looks fantastic - better than a lot of 5 year old virgin BCC in fact)

Here's a LIGHT PURPLE Guyanese male that is over 8 years old

Here's a closer shot of him...

I'm not seeing the darkness you keep referring to unless you're talking about the post-ocular stripe. Then, yes, I agree. That thing is DARK.. AND FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!

Here's another purple Guyanese male. Admittedly, this was on a light day, but his "dark phase" is still lighter than the vast majority of pink Guyanese I've seen.

In fact, his "dark phase" is actually pink - weird...

This guy (born from the male above X the female shown ovulating) takes exception to being called "dark"

So, rather than posting your "theories" and "hearsay", toss up a little proof. Step up, or shut up.
jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com Site received a complete makeover! Check it out!

ChrisErica - not everyone likes the same thing and labeling something as "ugly" just because it isn't what you like isn't very smart. I hope you can apply this lesson to other more meaningful things in life as well.

Take care,

Kevin

Very nice...
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Richard Ceniceros