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choc albino's ????

pipatic Oct 06, 2003 05:05 AM

hi all ,
i bred a tangerine hybino to a
dark albino,
the hatchlings have come out as choc albinos or
wud they be tang-choc albino,
or
tangerine choc hybino.
if i breed these together would the offspring be tan.choc.hybino,

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Replies (6)

royalgoldreps Oct 06, 2003 09:29 AM

That is what Tremper albinos looked like when they first came out so don't even try to call it a chocolate!! THAT is the real deal. Really, that is their normal colorationg before line breeding and any temperature altering (mixed results btw) are applied to the strain.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

RedQuake Oct 06, 2003 11:48 AM

Ok stupid question.......but i've gotta ask. What exactly makes an albino an albino? The eyes??????? I ask cause in my mind albino always meant all white, no colour, which had made me think blizzards are more albino than the albinos out there today.

I have a beautiful tremper albino female named Abby, who i adore. And now i'm more interested in aquiring more of the albinos (bell and lasvagas).

Sorry for the question but i'm just a bit confused......hehehe, which is normal for me LOL

Thanks
Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)
2.0 bettas

Lucien Oct 06, 2003 12:30 PM

An Albino is an animal with a corrupted version of the Tyrosinase gene.. Tyrosinase is one of the enzymes that allow melanin to form which is where you get your black coloring. Albino have a fault version so they produce no melanin... but they can produce the other 3 basic colors... red, brown, and yellow.

Here's a quote for you from a paper I read a while ago:

"Tyrosinase (tie-ROW-sin-ace) is the major enzyme involved in the formation of melanin pigment. Tyrosinase is responsible for converting tyrosine to DOPA and on to dopaquinone (dopa-QUIN-own). The dopaquinone then forms black-brown eumelanin or red-yellow pheomelanin. The tyrosinase enzyme is made by the tyrosinase gene on chromosome 11, and alterations (also called mutations) of this gene can produce one type of albinism because the tyrosinase enzyme made by the altered gene does not work correctly.

Two additional enzymes called tyrosinase-related protein 1 or DHICA oxidase (DEE-ca OX-eye-dase) and tyrosinase-related protein 2 or dopachrome tautomerase (dopa-chrome tow-TOM-er-ace) are important in the formation of eumelanin pigment. The gene for DHICA oxidase in on chromosome 9 and the gene for dopachrome tautomerase in on chromosome 9. Alterations of the DHICA oxidase gene are associated with a loss of function of this enzyme and this produces on type of albinism. Alterations of the gene for dopachrome tautomerase do not produce albinism."
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Lucien

1.0 Columbian Redtail Boa (BCI)
3.1 Leopard geckos (2 Blizzard and 2 het Blizzard)
0.1 Savannah Monitor
13 rats
12 Gerbils
2 Dogs
3 cats
1 Albino Corey (fish)

pipatic Oct 06, 2003 02:52 PM

royalgoldreps,
first off look at my title "choc albino ??"
i am asking not telling ?
so my question is asumming there choc's, so i am calling them choc just in asking my Q, untill someone explained
why they look like choc albino.
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royalgoldreps Oct 06, 2003 05:44 PM

Yeah, I know, did you see my smiley in there? Sorry if I offended it was not intended to be such.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

pipatic Oct 07, 2003 06:42 AM

hey,no probo, i should have been so quick off the mark,
anyway SO there not choc just darkie's ?, so are the het for there daddy hybino or mum dark albino, or poss douable het for both ?

i dont want to produce anymore of these darkie's unless it's to produce something better?,
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