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A guy I know wanted to move out his small collection and asked if I wanted his 3 year old kings......
I gladly accepted them but I was amazed that one of them was HUGE, especially for being just three.....
1.1 Goini X Floridana
1.1 Blaze Phase Goini
1.0 Splendida
And yes only 3 years old for this gigantic male.....
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John Lassiter
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Where are the goini??????????????
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
The tan one and the one with orangish bands......But they are all part goini........lol
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John Lassiter
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Awwww........hybrids......got it!
That first pic is crazy, I bet it would give a decent bite.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>Awwww........hybrids......got it!
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>>That first pic is crazy, I bet it would give a decent bite.
Yep...my only hybrids...
but I need to clarify....I just did some digging in some old photos and posts on another forum...
That tan/orange solid looking one is a Hypo Blaze goini x
floridana.
Here it is as a hatchling:
Here it is at a year old:
I think the other 3 are all goini, but I am not sure....
All those Southeastern get "muddy" looking as adults....
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John Lassiter
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Jassiter,
Are you sure the Blaze x FL is a cross. Because I never heafrd of anyone breeding a Floridana to a Blaze phase before.
Is it possible that maybe he confused you about the other two being FL x goini crosses?
I am not saying the FL x Blaze cross never happened. But looking at the pics the Blaze looks like a Blaze. Now, there are the hypo brooks out there which are FL x goini. But they are not to be confused with the "blaze phase" which is a different trait from the hypo.
I know you already know all this i am just typing for clarification for others.
Beisdes isn't the Blaze also referred to as a Hyperythristic?
here is an old post of Hypo x FLoridana pics:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=1673322,1673378&key=2009
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>>Jassiter,
>>Are you sure the Blaze x FL is a cross. Because I never heafrd of anyone breeding a Floridana to a Blaze phase before.
Tom Stevens did in 2009.
He bred a Hypo Floridana (Brooksi) to a Blaze Phase Goini.
That orange one emerged.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
The whole blaze thing is up in the air, too. I don't think they are goini, just a bunch of crossed up stuff, that's all.
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>The whole blaze thing is up in the air, too. I don't think they are goini, just a bunch of crossed up stuff, that's all.
Maybe....But wild goini are crossed up stuff too....lol
They (floridana, brooksi, sticticeps, getula, meansi, goini) are all L. getula according to Burbrink et al 2009...haha
What happened to going by phenotype?
Now it's all about DNA?
Those smart scientists will finally figure out all snakes are related.....duh!....lol
I thought that was the reason for species and subspecies below them.....
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John Lassiter
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I don't think so, there a different animals in Florida, again, my opinion. The blaze don't look anything like kings from that area. I'm just thinking out loud, not knocking you. I also don't think all snakes are related, some maybe closer than people think but no way they are all from one.
Nice splendida!
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>I don't think so, there a different animals in Florida, again, my opinion. The blaze don't look anything like kings from that area. I'm just thinking out loud, not knocking you. I also don't think all snakes are related, some maybe closer than people think but no way they are all from one.
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>>Nice splendida!
LOL.....Colubridae
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
Here's an awful full body shot of one of the goini....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
No albinos?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
I'm just messing with you, right?
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Gerard
"Sleep my friend and you will see, your dreams are my reality. "
>>I'm just messing with you, right?
You're just confusing me.....LOL
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John Lassiter
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That splendida in nice. Do you have a full body shot or something that shows more than that?
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>>That splendida in nice. Do you have a full body shot or something that shows more than that?
Here ya go....
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John Lassiter
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He looks like the ones found between Alpine and Marathon, West Texas.
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John Lassiter
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"He looks like the ones found between Alpine and Marathon, West Texas"
That sounds like the place to herp. I never knew there was actually an area for them. Thanks for the picture!
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>>"He looks like the ones found between Alpine and Marathon, West Texas"
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>>That sounds like the place to herp. I never knew there was actually an area for them. Thanks for the picture!
They are actually widespread, but the ones with the most yellow and smaller black blotches are typically found in that area.
I have one from south of Alpine, TX that looks completely different. Lots of black on the sides and less yellow.
Then you've seen pics of the ones from down in my area.....
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John Lassiter
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Interesting. Just goes to show how much there is to them in the wild.
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>>Interesting. Just goes to show how much there is to them in the wild.
Yep...very similar to California kings....
Different phenotypes for different localities.....Just more subtle than californiae.
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John Lassiter
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