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First 100% BCC morph proven this morning

kitchi Sep 22, 2012 11:20 AM

I think so anyways. My purple connected saddle ladder tail Guyana dropped her babies this morning. It looks like the genetics are some kind of dominant trait as I suspected. I only got slightly less than 50% and was expecting a little more based on the original litter. I bred her with the most colorful gold and pink male Guyana that I produced in 97'. It had the crappiest pattern and no connecting saddles and is from the Cypress Creek line that has not produced a single ladder tail when bred back to themselves or to an unrelated Marzec Guyana line in several litters now and only a few that had any amount of connected saddles. So this was a good test for the trait. More pictures and detail to follows when I have more time. Wait until you see the father of the Mom. He is the most awesome Guyana I have ever seen!

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kitchi Sep 22, 2012 12:08 PM

After removing the female.

kitchi Sep 22, 2012 12:10 PM

The middle photo is a normal but looks to be very colorful!

kitchi Sep 22, 2012 12:12 PM

The bottom photo shows tha ladder tails have the big side medallions like the Mom & Grand Dad.

kevmadden Sep 22, 2012 01:27 PM

Huge congrats Mike!!!!!!

Jonathan_Brady Sep 22, 2012 01:54 PM

I'd say they're the first pattern mutation that's pure BCC (that we know of anyway). There have been color mutations such as the Suriname BCC's (which have never reproduced AFAIK) and Gus' hypermelanistic Peruvians.

Congrats man!
jb
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boaphile Sep 22, 2012 08:30 PM

The "Harlequin" or what was "sold" idea wise as the Harlequin Patternless mutation came from an imported Peruvian Red Tail Boa. The mother of all those babies is the Peruvian import. Still, that particular version of a patternless has not been "proven" genetic, it most likely is.
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boaphile Sep 22, 2012 08:31 PM

Very cool critter Kitchi! Very cool!
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LarM Sep 22, 2012 09:03 PM

Jeff these ae the Guyanese Boas I was trying to tell you about probably 3 years ago now . . . .
I know at least 2 years ago I tried to explain these to you.

I know I've been watching this project of Mike's for probably close to 4 years now . . . . . I believe he posted images
of these big CBLT pattern Guyanese quite a few years ago and they caught my eye as interesting

Just like the Roswell project and then the KWB probably year and a half or two years later . . . . . .

So now you understand exactly what I was talking about . . .

. . . Lar M
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LarM Sep 22, 2012 08:50 PM

That would be Gus';s Hyper-Pigmented Peruvian Bcc.

Hypermelanistic would be basically the opposite of colorful . . . .

Gus's Pucallpa Peruvians are Simple Recessive color mutation . . . .

I know there are proven Tumbes Pervian also known as Longicauda that have proven
Hypermelanistic, that is a very dark color that takes over as they age . . . .
These HyperPigmented Pucallpa Peruvian Boas also have Dark eyes . . .
I Don't know if anyone has proven if these eyes are Dark Red . . . . .
Or if these Eyes are Dark Brown . . . . Or if these Eyes are Dark as in Black . . . . .

Just Like the Colombian type IMG . . . AKA, Azabache Boas do, they produce an outer layer
of Melanin as they age and it covers their entire body.

As far as I know the IMG Boas do not have dark eyes . . I don't believe
the Tumbes Peruvian type have dark eyes either . . .

I'm not certain I know of any Pucallpa or Iquitos Peruvian Boas that have
proven to be Genetically reproducible Hypermelanistic Boas . . .

I know you know these HyperPigmented Pucallpa Peruvian are what you meant
but you made a mistake and spelled it as Hypermelanistic.

I could not resist making this correction just because I know you
would end up Laughing about my correction in the end . . .

Take care JB . . . . .

. . . Lar M
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Jonathan_Brady Sep 22, 2012 09:07 PM

>>That would be Gus';s Hyper-Pigmented Peruvian Bcc.
>>
>>Hypermelanistic would be basically the opposite of colorful . . . .
>>
>>Gus's Pucallpa Peruvians are Simple Recessive color mutation . . . .
>>
>>I know there are proven Tumbes Pervian also known as Longicauda that have proven
>> Hypermelanistic, that is a very dark color that takes over as they age . . . .
>>These HyperPigmented Pucallpa Peruvian Boas also have Dark eyes . . .
>>I Don't know if anyone has proven if these eyes are Dark Red . . . . .
>>Or if these Eyes are Dark Brown . . . . Or if these Eyes are Dark as in Black . . . . .
>>
>>Just Like the Colombian type IMG . . . AKA, Azabache Boas do, they produce an outer layer
>>of Melanin as they age and it covers their entire body.
>>
>>As far as I know the IMG Boas do not have dark eyes . . I don't believe
>>the Tumbes Peruvian type have dark eyes either . . .
>>
>>I'm not certain I know of any Pucallpa or Iquitos Peruvian Boas that have
>> proven to be Genetically reproducible Hypermelanistic Boas . . .
>>
>>
>>I know you know these HyperPigmented Pucallpa Peruvian are what you meant
>>but you made a mistake and spelled it as Hypermelanistic.
>>
>>I could not resist making this correction just because I know you
>> would end up Laughing about my correction in the end . . .
>>
>>
>>Take care JB . . . . .
>>
>>
>> . . . Lar M
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>>I Support USark.org
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afoll Sep 22, 2012 04:01 PM

I don't know what to say; Unreal man!!!
I think you're officially a "morpher" now. LOL
Those side medallions are huge!

LarM Sep 22, 2012 02:38 PM

Congrats . . . . . Beautiful . . . . absolutely Gorgeous Guyanese . . . . I've really thought for quite some time now actually since the first time
I saw these connected pattern Guyanese Boas that it would prove Genetically reproducible in a Dominant fashion !

They do have really huge lateral medallions . .that's also interesting !

This makes me Happy because I really Love this Line and I have always been
a Large Fan of Guyanese Boa constrictor constrictor . . . .

I've always thought Guyanese were the King of the Bcc but that is purely an individual judgement call . . . .
no right or wrong answer people Like what they Like . . .

To you and your beautiful Guyanese . . . . a Toast of Congrats !

. . . Lar M
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McCarthyBoas Sep 22, 2012 10:45 PM

The new Guyana babies look very nice Mike. Just so you know 8 of the Brazilians ate tonight for me.

Take care
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perfectpredators Sep 23, 2012 12:02 AM

Man that is a great looking litter, if that is a genetic trait what a great trait to be genetic...

ceniceros Sep 23, 2012 11:45 AM

Congrats!!!!
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