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A striped and aberrant Sonoran Bull

SDeFriez Sep 22, 2012 03:28 PM

3/4 stipe down her back, the rest of her is aberrant. She was WC by me. Will be breeding her next year. Sorry for the bad pics!

Scott

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Jlassiter Sep 22, 2012 05:22 PM

>>3/4 stipe down her back, the rest of her is aberrant. She was WC by me. Will be breeding her next year. Sorry for the bad pics!

That is very similar to the reverse striped Southern Plains Ratsnakes my buddy Toby Brock produced this year from second generation offspring of a wild caught reverse striped meahllmorum that Todd Hughes found.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

SDeFriez Sep 22, 2012 07:32 PM

yeah she's a very cool looking snake. Hey john! Do you know how the hatchlings turned out from that reverse striped Pantherophis emoryi meahillmorum?

Thanks!
Scott

>>>>3/4 stipe down her back, the rest of her is aberrant. She was WC by me. Will be breeding her next year. Sorry for the bad pics!
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>>That is very similar to the reverse striped Southern Plains Ratsnakes my buddy Toby Brock produced this year from second generation offspring of a wild caught reverse striped meahllmorum that Todd Hughes found.
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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DMong Sep 23, 2012 05:44 PM

Here is the sweet clutch that Toby produced....

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com

SDeFriez Sep 25, 2012 08:26 AM

Nice! Hope mine come out looking like that next season..

Scott

>>Here is the sweet clutch that Toby produced....
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>> ~Doug
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>>"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
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>>serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Jlassiter Sep 23, 2012 08:54 PM

Here's a good link concerning them:
http://southwesternherp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1347033102

Toby will have an article in the SWCHR Bulletin soon as well.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

SDeFriez Sep 25, 2012 08:28 AM

Cool! Thanks John!

Scott

>>Here's a good link concerning them:
>>http://southwesternherp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1347033102
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>>Toby will have an article in the SWCHR Bulletin soon as well.
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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Kerby... Sep 23, 2012 10:03 AM

So, is this a Sonoran Gopher snake or a Bull snake? What state was it caught in?

Thanks

Kerby...
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Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.


SDeFriez Sep 23, 2012 01:33 PM

Being from Cal, I always called them gopher snakes..LOL! I live in NM now and around here they call them Sonoran bull snakes. Caught her about two miles from my place night driving.

Scott

>>So, is this a Sonoran Gopher snake or a Bull snake? What state was it caught in?
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>>Thanks
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>>Kerby...
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>>Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.
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Kerby... Sep 23, 2012 03:09 PM

That is because there aren't any bull snakes in California and the only bull snakes in NM are in the very eastern edge.

The "Sonoran Bull snake" is an improper name.

Kerby...
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Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.


RossPadilla Sep 23, 2012 05:54 PM

A Sonoran Bull snake sounds like a Sonoran gopher/Bull snake intergrade.
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SDeFriez Sep 25, 2012 08:35 AM

I know that on both accounts. Try telling the locals that! The Bull snake I caught was in the South/Western end of the state.

Scott

>>That is because there aren't any bull snakes in California and the only bull snakes in NM are in the very eastern edge.
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>>The "Sonoran Bull snake" is an improper name.
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>>Kerby...
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>>Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.
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madeline Sep 23, 2012 07:36 PM

There must be something going on in New Mexico because I've been approached through a friend if I was interested in a striper sonoran/bull except this specimen had a stripe along it's last half of it's body with an unusually dark neck kinda like a stillwater hypo. If that makes any sense.

SDeFriez Sep 25, 2012 08:51 AM

Maybe the fallout from the Alamogordo test site? LOL! I've seen a few other striped bulls, just wasn't able to catch them.

Scott

>>There must be something going on in New Mexico because I've been approached through a friend if I was interested in a striper sonoran/bull except this specimen had a stripe along it's last half of it's body with an unusually dark neck kinda like a stillwater hypo. If that makes any sense.

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